982 GT4 Spyder?
#1981
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Originally Posted by hf1
Maybe the auto-top Boxster 6 will have the same engine but the lighter X73 suspension, smaller (lighter) brakes, and narrower (lighter) wheels hence weigh the same or even less?
is this a thing? are there real indications or just rampant speculation?
#1982
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Love to see how Andreas always seems to explain much more details with Mr Catchpole than with any other interviewer (video above), thanks for the "Just In Time" post.
Spyder is now a GT family (like the 911 Speedster) so, like someone said, that's for better or for worst... I personally believe that's for better and, as for this release, the big improvements are on the Spyder, so I perfectly understand GT4 owners arguing that this is not enough to make them want trade for a new GT4.
Regarding emissions, I believe that CO2 is just related to fuel consumption in every combustion engine, so the more displacement means more fuel so more CO2 (and more taxes to pay), but that's very different to the outgoing gasses composition, or answering the question of how much cleaner those exit gasses are.
There's one thing that concern me a bit though, and it is regarding the ride eight for the street, because as per spec sheet someone could understand that now the Spyder it's 10mm lower... with my old 981 Spyder was each speed bump was an stress...
I would really appreciate if some 981 GT4 owner could clear out if the 30mm refers to lowest possible setting (that you can manually adjust), meaning that the factory setting would stands just at the same 20mm of the X73? or better getting used to the idea of having 10mm less from factory now?
PS: At least this street/scrapping situation is something that the GT team seems to be very aware of, otherwise they wouldn't bother to have "chopped" a little bit the front splitter on the new Spyder (images below)
Spyder is now a GT family (like the 911 Speedster) so, like someone said, that's for better or for worst... I personally believe that's for better and, as for this release, the big improvements are on the Spyder, so I perfectly understand GT4 owners arguing that this is not enough to make them want trade for a new GT4.
Regarding emissions, I believe that CO2 is just related to fuel consumption in every combustion engine, so the more displacement means more fuel so more CO2 (and more taxes to pay), but that's very different to the outgoing gasses composition, or answering the question of how much cleaner those exit gasses are.
There's one thing that concern me a bit though, and it is regarding the ride eight for the street, because as per spec sheet someone could understand that now the Spyder it's 10mm lower... with my old 981 Spyder was each speed bump was an stress...
I would really appreciate if some 981 GT4 owner could clear out if the 30mm refers to lowest possible setting (that you can manually adjust), meaning that the factory setting would stands just at the same 20mm of the X73? or better getting used to the idea of having 10mm less from factory now?
PS: At least this street/scrapping situation is something that the GT team seems to be very aware of, otherwise they wouldn't bother to have "chopped" a little bit the front splitter on the new Spyder (images below)
I wonder if the 718 Spyder front splitter is thinner than the GT4 splitter too, as it was on the 981. I hope it is, as small things like this make a big difference in usability. A front lip that’s too thick and protrudes too much is the difference between a car that’s enjoyable to drive and unpleasantly stressful to drive in its intended habitat.
I don’t want to deal with situations like this:
#1983
Right, but 718 Spyder might be lower than the 981 because of the GT PASM suspension, that's my concern.. unless some GT4 owner can confirm that the ride heigh adjustments of their 981 GT4 suspension allow them end up just sitting 20mm lower instead of the 30mm...
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Ddesimone17 (07-08-2019)
#1986
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There have been hints from various sources that more user-friendly "Touring" (wingless) GT4 and (auto-top, humpless) Spyder iterations may be on offer -- akin to the GT3 Touring. The actual name is irrelevant (Spyder Touring package, Boxster 6/R/GTS). An auto-top Spyder would be interesting to me as I open/close the top on my Boxster at least 2x a run. Many others have expressed the same interest. No reason why the top Boxster engine and suspension must exclusively come with a cumbersome top.
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DFW01TT (07-08-2019)
#1987
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The press release for the 718 GT4/Spyder says there ride height is manually adjustable, but does not give the range.
It also says the ride height is 30mm lower than the BASE 718. I would assume (maybe badly) that the chassis measuring points for ride height might be the same in the 981 and 718. I have not seen one for the 718 yet. An issue for street driving may arise that if the chassis measuring points are the same, the 718 is sitting at 30mm and the the front spoiler is lower than the 981.
From the thread below for the 981 it appears that the available threads to lower the GT4 are 20mm and very little to raise.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=93689
Below for reference are the measuring points for the 981, front on the left and rear on the right.
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DFW01TT (07-08-2019)
#1988
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I wanted to share a quick summary of what I know so far (in comparison with 981 Spyder), hope this would be useful for others as well:
981 Spyder (2015-2016)
718 (982) Spyder (2019-2023*TBC)
3.8L Redline 7600rpm
4.0L Redline 8000rpm
375PS (370bhp) 276kW @6400rpm
420PS (414bhp) 309 kW @7600rpm
1390kg(UE) 266 bhp/ton(UE)
1420kg(UE) 292 bhp/ton(UE)
420 Nm @4750-6000rpm
420 Nm @5000-6800rpm
0-100km 4.5s max speed 290 km/h
0-100km 4.4s max speed 301 km/h
9.9l/100km (10.1 km/l) 230g/km CO2
10.9l/100km (9.2 km/l) 249g/km CO2
PZero 235/35 ZR 20 & 265/35 ZR 20
Cup 2 245/35 ZR 20 & 295/30 ZR 20
X73 Sport Suspension (20mm lower)
PASM GT Suspension (30mm lower)
981 Spyder (2015-2016)
718 (982) Spyder (2019-2023*TBC)
3.8L Redline 7600rpm
4.0L Redline 8000rpm
375PS (370bhp) 276kW @6400rpm
420PS (414bhp) 309 kW @7600rpm
1390kg(UE) 266 bhp/ton(UE)
1420kg(UE) 292 bhp/ton(UE)
420 Nm @4750-6000rpm
420 Nm @5000-6800rpm
0-100km 4.5s max speed 290 km/h
0-100km 4.4s max speed 301 km/h
9.9l/100km (10.1 km/l) 230g/km CO2
10.9l/100km (9.2 km/l) 249g/km CO2
PZero 235/35 ZR 20 & 265/35 ZR 20
Cup 2 245/35 ZR 20 & 295/30 ZR 20
X73 Sport Suspension (20mm lower)
PASM GT Suspension (30mm lower)
#1989
Three Wheelin'
Great interview by Henry Catchpole, as always. He is my favorite. He asks the question and lets the man talk without interrupting, the way it should be!
As for the length of production run, in Europe and elsewhere, the cars are being delivered this year. So, they would be MY2019. AP mentioned about enough allocations being available in '20 and '21; not, '22. So, I'm guessing, the 3-year run could mean '19-'21. In '22, the next gen platform could be launched.
As for the length of production run, in Europe and elsewhere, the cars are being delivered this year. So, they would be MY2019. AP mentioned about enough allocations being available in '20 and '21; not, '22. So, I'm guessing, the 3-year run could mean '19-'21. In '22, the next gen platform could be launched.
#1990
Well I know that some specs say that but the dashboard always showed a clear 7600 redline... I believe that rev limiter it's on 7800 on the 981... I haven't seen a 718 Spyder dashboard picture yet, that would dictate a fair comparison
Last edited by metalone; 07-08-2019 at 01:54 AM.
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DFW01TT (07-09-2019)
#1994
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Can’t go wrong with GT Silver. Every Porsche looks stunning with it.