What is going on with the 718 market?
#211
It's funny, I was actually looking for an S with all the GTS spec stuff, i.e. PASM (although I could have done without the extra 10mm drop), PTV, SE, SC, etc., but with limited options in part to keep the cost down and in part because I don't like superfluous options which I wouldn't actually use much if at all (ex. power seats, or upgraded stereo (I mostly listen to audiobooks and/or podcasts), or for that matter even Navi when I intend to use CarPlay with Waze exclusively, or the upgraded headlights -- I don't care for their look although the fact that they turn is damn cool). So the way this car was spec'ed is actually pretty close to perfect. I prefer the Sports-Tex seats, actually my first choice, over leather and god forbid Alcantara; I also like the Sports Plus seats but could care less about 14/18 way power - I'm the only driving this car ever. I also really wanted and glad I got the multi-functioning steering wheel, the fact that's also a GT is another nice plus. Never had heated seats or wheel before, and I'm sure those will be nice in the winter, but I prefer the button layout/usability of the base HVAC controls over the 2-zone one in a car barely big enough for two people The one thing I'm clearly missing, and this will take a bit of an adjustment even coming from my 09 Z, is the Entry & Drive package; I'm so used to locking/unlocking and also starting the car without having to take anything out of my pocket . Lane Change Assist would have been nice too, but not a necessity. Lastly I really wanted Adaptive Cruise Control but that doesn't work without a PDK and the only option I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO HAVE was the 6 speed. Anyways, will report more after a few days of driving.
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#216
It gets down past freezing here at late night only...days warm up well past 40 usually so should not be an issue.....it'll be nice to have uniform tire wear for a change....I go thru 3 sets of rears for every front set on my SC 911...and now they no longer make the rears in the same pattern....so new tires all around shortly and the fronts are still way good to go.
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It's funny, I was actually looking for an S with all the GTS spec stuff, i.e. PASM (although I could have done without the extra 10mm drop), PTV, SE, SC, etc., but with limited options in part to keep the cost down and in part because I don't like superfluous options which I wouldn't actually use much if at all (ex. power seats, or upgraded stereo (I mostly listen to audiobooks and/or podcasts), or for that matter even Navi when I intend to use CarPlay with Waze exclusively, or the upgraded headlights -- I don't care for their look although the fact that they turn is damn cool). So the way this car was spec'ed is actually pretty close to perfect. I prefer the Sports-Tex seats, actually my first choice, over leather and god forbid Alcantara; I also like the Sports Plus seats but could care less about 14/18 way power - I'm the only driving this car ever. I also really wanted and glad I got the multi-functioning steering wheel, the fact that's also a GT is another nice plus. Never had heated seats or wheel before, and I'm sure those will be nice in the winter, but I prefer the button layout/usability of the base HVAC controls over the 2-zone one in a car barely big enough for two people The one thing I'm clearly missing, and this will take a bit of an adjustment even coming from my 09 Z, is the Entry & Drive package; I'm so used to locking/unlocking and also starting the car without having to take anything out of my pocket . Lane Change Assist would have been nice too, but not a necessity. Lastly I really wanted Adaptive Cruise Control but that doesn't work without a PDK and the only option I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO HAVE was the 6 speed. Anyways, will report more after a few days of driving.
As for Lane Change Assist I think you will find that it is not needed in these cars. The visibility is so good that there are very few blind spots and those spots tend to be very small as compared to some other cars. If it was a Boxster I would definitely look for one with LCA but the Cayman really does not need it.
#218
Right there with you on the Entry and Drive. My Macan had it but my Cayman does not. But I'm a little over a week into it and now I am already getting used to taking the key out. On the upside I do enjoy the process of putting the little Porsche key in the slot and twisting the ignition switch. It somehow feels a little more engaging and purposeful than simply getting in and twisting the built in fob that you get with Entry and Drive.
As for Lane Change Assist I think you will find that it is not needed in these cars. The visibility is so good that there are very few blind spots and those spots tend to be very small as compared to some other cars. If it was a Boxster I would definitely look for one with LCA but the Cayman really does not need it.
As for Lane Change Assist I think you will find that it is not needed in these cars. The visibility is so good that there are very few blind spots and those spots tend to be very small as compared to some other cars. If it was a Boxster I would definitely look for one with LCA but the Cayman really does not need it.
#219
Just like your, or my, spouse....give it a couple of weeks and all your options, and non options, will be perfect, once you get used to them.
IMO, whatever PAG finally does with future Cayman offerings , your outstanding car will only go up in value.
Permagrin has set in.
IMO, whatever PAG finally does with future Cayman offerings , your outstanding car will only go up in value.
Permagrin has set in.
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k.alexander (11-26-2019)
#220
What a great thread! I'm trying to find my first 718 in manual and it has been tough. I'm a cheapskate so I would like a car that is already taken the depreciation hit but it seems they haven't really done so. I test drove a brand new Red Boxster GTS in MT at Porsche North Houston and made me firmly decide that a manual was the better option for me. I'm not sure but why are the 15/16' 981 GTS almost the same price as a used 718 GTS? Is it solely the H6?
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#222
Thanks for that. I read through this entire thread and was curious; how much wiggle room would I realistically be able to negotiate for a used 18' manual GTS? I know its highly option dependent of course but most of the posts are discounts % are based on new MSRP (10~15%) for a "new"-ish car sitting on the lot. Although I'm in Houston, there are no cars specced to my liking in Texas (guess I fall into the OCD must-have-it-my-way), so I'll have to purchase out of state.
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#223
Thanks for that. I read through this entire thread and was curious; how much wiggle room would I realistically be able to negotiate for a used 18' manual GTS? I know its highly option dependent of course but most of the posts are discounts % are based on new MSRP (10~15%) for a "new"-ish car sitting on the lot. Although I'm in a Houston, there are no cars specced to my liking in Texas (guess I fall into the OCD must-have-it-my-way), so I'll have to purchase out of state.
All I want to tell you: If there is a car where you have lots of room to negotiate that it is a manual Boxster/Cayman, these cars sit significantly over average on the lot and the dealers are desperate to move these cars. Look nationwide and make aggressive offers over phone/email. I recommend to buy either new or CPO. Once you have a quote in writing, book a ticket and go to inspect the car. If everything is as expected, sign and drive/ship the car home.
#224
Thanks for that. I read through this entire thread and was curious; how much wiggle room would I realistically be able to negotiate for a used 18' manual GTS? I know its highly option dependent of course but most of the posts are discounts % are based on new MSRP (10~15%) for a "new"-ish car sitting on the lot. Although I'm in a Houston, there are no cars specced to my liking in Texas (guess I fall into the OCD must-have-it-my-way), so I'll have to purchase out of state.
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Originally Posted by fantom
Just like your, or my, spouse....give it a couple of weeks and all your options, and non options, will be perfect, once you get used to them.
IMO, whatever PAG finally does with future Cayman offerings , your outstanding car will only go up in value.
Permagrin has set in.
IMO, whatever PAG finally does with future Cayman offerings , your outstanding car will only go up in value.
Permagrin has set in.
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