CodyBigdog

Ergo, why MANY call it a “cult”.

But people buy what makes them happy. Obviously, reliability is not a top priority for this group. Been there, done that. Love my 911, so much fun to drive…but quite honestly, the persistent rattles ruins much of the positive experience. Would I buy again? Probably? But not a certainty.

AlexCeres

I flat out don’t believe this. I have never had an oxygen sensor failure, loose hose, cracked hose, damaged fuel line, bad spark plug, bad gasket, damage radiator, cracked fan belt, failed battery, low oil or a litany of other problems in an EV. ICE vehicles have vastly more wear items.

new tires
software updates

that’s it.

CodyBigdog

Who cares whether you believe CR? Not here to defend CR. In fact, I think they are garbage…but in consumer-land, they still carry a lot of weight. Iv’e had my EV for 2 years, next month. Other than an occasional software glitch, requiring a re-boot, I’ve had zero issues. None. Nada. So my experience is like yours. But we don’t have our own magazine that reaches 10’s of millions of readers.

CR’s methodology is flawed (for those that know anything about statistics)…but that’s what their headlines say, and unfortunately, pretty much every media outlet picked up this headline and ran with it for the last few months in 2023.

Google, and you willl see a LOT of references to the CR poll.

AlexCeres

i don’t think Tesla customers are a cult. There is something about the first full EV with real performance, instead of the ****ty compliance predecessors. Their build quality sucks, and there are a lot of reasons why I didn’t buy one, but I drove a model 3 for about 3 blocks in 2018 before realizing it was something special and change was coming. If you don’t care about the steering feel or suspension and just want an urban transportation appliance, they are pretty fantastic

whiz944

Early Model S and especially Model X had their teething problems. My 2018 Model 3 has been nearly flawless. Did replace a leaky taillight about a year ago. But I've had leaky light housings in ICE cars too. Including my 944.

CodyBigdog

But many people do…think it’s a “cult”. There have been 100’s of articles on the phenomena.

But from a more “scientific” or psychological perspective: Maybe even a marketing perspective:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ult-psychology

DISCLAIMER: I don’t (necessarily) agree with all the points made in the article. Just pointing out, that viewing many tesla owners as “cult” members is not something new. Maybe it is to you?

EXOTIC4

agree
I’ve personally owned three Model S including a PLAiD so over seven years of ownership for three cars. They were in twice for minor service. My experience is similar with others I know who own S. Just my experience

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-has-become-the-brand-with-the-lowest-maintenance-cost-for-its-cars-in-10-years-of-use

hitmonlee

I think many Tesla owners came from ICE cars (their Tesla was their first EV) and a big portion of their “satisfaction” comes from the advantages EV have over ICE cars, not Tesla specific.

I know plenty of people who moved from Tesla to other EVs. Not many did the opposite.

kort677

it all depends on your driving needs, I drive around 10k miles a year on average so that is what I buy.
it is wiser to buy the miles you need at lease inception rather than paying for them later, those miles can add up fast.
try to match your average miles over the last few years and buy accordingly

kort677

prior to the massive increase in owners since the model 3 came out the tesla owners were very cult like. those who did not kneel at the alter of Elon were shunned. since the model 3 came out and the hundreds of thousand of new tesla owners it is far more mainstream and less cult like

kort677

until they buy a superior car like a taycan

EXOTIC4

many caveats to consider apples to apples
looks taycan wins and interior….. Tesla model S wins. especially software/ / performance / charge network.
I loved my Panny turbo S and now Plaid as DD over the Taycan for me personally. To each their own for making the choice. There are some who have owned all 3 and would choose the Lucid GT over both. Any choice of 3 are solid overall.
Good luck with the Sale of your Taycan nice spec and a beauty.

thebishman

The big problem with the CR ‘reliability’ stats are that iirc, a very minor and transient software glitch such as a specific option in something like the ADAS not booting up, is given the same weight as an ‘electrical system fault’ as a true major issue. Meaning counted the same.

CodyBigdog

You, my educated friend, get it! 👍 Well done!

I’ve tried to explain this point , to all the EV haters I know. But the fact remains….most Americans don’t look beyond the headlines. And what makes it worse is…most of the media simply parroted the headline, without delving deeper into the numbers.

daveo4porsche

buying a Lucid is a great idea - they made about as many Lucid Airs in 2023 world wide as porsche sold Taycan in the US…

https://karenable.com/lucid2023/

seems like a solid play - I wish anyone buying one good luck.

product is literally flying off the shelves…

• Distribution: Lucid operates a direct to consumer sales approach currently operates 38 Studios (Sales showrooms) and service centers in North America, 5 in Europe, and 2 in Saudi Arabia. In 2022, Lucid produced 2,811 more vehicles than they delivered, and in 2023, the number was 2,427. The excess production vs. deliveries over the past two years now amounts to 85% of the actual cars delivered in 2023. How this excess stock is being managed was not covered in the earnings report.