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Old 12-17-2021, 09:45 PM
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The site has confirmed no issues in their end, which of course they are likely to do.

Another example of why waiting until the last minute (or 2) to bid is a terrible idea. Seems like it went for a song.
Old 12-18-2021, 12:18 PM
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My experience/observations:
- Sell at BJ or BAT
- Purchase at PCAR or Mecum
My $0.02. The spreads are noticeable.
Old 12-19-2021, 11:38 PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see that example show up on BAT this spring - but hopefully I am wrong and the new owner joins our group soon. I am curious if flippers have figured out opportunities between auction platforms - the auction fees would be hard to beat.

I also agree waiting until the last minute to get a “steal” is a very bad idea.

Here was the official response:


PCARMARKET2 days, 6 hoursago@Adguy924CGT All bids are accounted for, there were no errors or outages on any part of the PCARMARKET platform. Thank you.
Old 12-20-2021, 06:20 PM
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Interesting article about BAT seller 911r …. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enth...ler/ar-AAS0cIi
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Only1Buck
Interesting article about BAT seller 911r …. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enth...ler/ar-AAS0cIi
Good article, thanks for posting. I've watched his auctions over the years and the cars are always stellar examples. Didn't know he'd been on for so long. I used to frequent the site back when it was 90% reposts of Craigslist ads (and you really did need to bring a trailer), but I guess he hadn't really surfaced yet as such a power dealer. He's doing it right with having everything in-house (mechanics, photographers, detailers).
Old 12-26-2021, 10:05 AM
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987 Cayman R for sale. Max number of range 1 over revs and over revs all the way through range 6 on this one. Strange that range 6 over revs are more than range 5 in here. But I've seen this before. Calipers painted black. Aftermarket rotors. Aftermarket suspension components. Soul exhaust. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the range 6 over revs are going to hold it back. Maybe high $60s? While over revs are a great tool to get an idea of a car overall, I think we can all agree that this motor will probably be still working properly in 5 years from now. However, the range 6's are slightly more of a concern given that we have no idea how high the revs went. WP0AB2A82CS793163

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...e-cayman-r-27/
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Old 12-26-2021, 06:15 PM
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The range 6 overrev means a pretty big missed shift. The positive is that the range 6 happened about 75 hours ago and the Blackstone report looked good. Like Bxster said, engine is likely to perform well into the future, hopefully it sells for a nice amount.

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Old 12-26-2021, 07:15 PM
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Agreed, someone is going to get an R at a great price due to the overrevs... I wouldn't be deterred but many will be.
Old 01-02-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
987 Cayman R for sale. Max number of range 1 over revs and over revs all the way through range 6 on this one. Strange that range 6 over revs are more than range 5 in here. But I've seen this before. Calipers painted black. Aftermarket rotors. Aftermarket suspension components. Soul exhaust. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the range 6 over revs are going to hold it back. Maybe high $60s? While over revs are a great tool to get an idea of a car overall, I think we can all agree that this motor will probably be still working properly in 5 years from now. However, the range 6's are slightly more of a concern given that we have no idea how high the revs went. WP0AB2A82CS793163

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...e-cayman-r-27/
One more day left on this one. Currently at $39,987.
Old 01-03-2022, 09:35 AM
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Pretty significant and fresh overrev report on it will make many folks cautious. 72 Range 5 (8400-9500) and 189 Range 4 (7900 - 8400) within the last ~15 hours of operation. Fresh Range 2 overrevs in the past 2 hours of engine operation.

That said, it looks like a clean car, and may turn out to be a bargain for the new owner.


** updated: I just saw that there are apparently a number of overrev reports in the gallery. I'm not sure why they included so many, but the Range 4 and 5 are now 50+ hours ago, which offers greater comfort to the potential new owner.

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Old 01-03-2022, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
987 Cayman R for sale. Max number of range 1 over revs and over revs all the way through range 6 on this one. Strange that range 6 over revs are more than range 5 in here. But I've seen this before. Calipers painted black. Aftermarket rotors. Aftermarket suspension components. Soul exhaust. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the range 6 over revs are going to hold it back. Maybe high $60s? While over revs are a great tool to get an idea of a car overall, I think we can all agree that this motor will probably be still working properly in 5 years from now. However, the range 6's are slightly more of a concern given that we have no idea how high the revs went. WP0AB2A82CS793163

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...e-cayman-r-27/
Sold for $67,500.
Old 01-03-2022, 04:54 PM
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I am a bit surprised it cleared $70k when you factor in BaT fees. I thought the modifications and those range 5 and 6 hits would keep it on the lower end of $60k. Hopefully the seller is happy and the buyer can enjoy an excellent car!
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I'm not sure it's weird to have more range 6 than range 5 overrevs - the range 5 was recorded on the way up and on the way down from the range 6, so the range 6 could have been held at those higher rpms for significantly longer if the clutch was fully let out. I've heard dealers say it's a "glitch", but it makes perfect sense to me. Am I thinking about this wrong?
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Originally Posted by AndrewLakes
I'm not sure it's weird to have more range 6 than range 5 overrevs - the range 5 was recorded on the way up and on the way down from the range 6, so the range 6 could have been held at those higher rpms for significantly longer if the clutch was fully let out. I've heard dealers say it's a "glitch", but it makes perfect sense to me. Am I thinking about this wrong?
Generally, the higher the range, the less ignitions you would expect to see. So for instance, if a car had range 1-6 over revs, you'd expect that it is passing through all of the ranges on the way up, it peaks at range 6, and then has to come back through all of those ranges on the way down. I'm not 100% sure how it would work if you mis-shifted it and had a mechanical over rev and then pressed in the clutch right when it happened. I think that is how you would get a situation as shown above, but I cannot be sure. So you would essentially have the engine spinning and registering range 6 but then right when you press in the clutch it would stop registering and you wouldn't be recording on the way down. Not sure.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
Generally, the higher the range, the less ignitions you would expect to see. So for instance, if a car had range 1-6 over revs, you'd expect that it is passing through all of the ranges on the way up, it peaks at range 6, and then has to come back through all of those ranges on the way down. I'm not 100% sure how it would work if you mis-shifted it and had a mechanical over rev and then pressed in the clutch right when it happened. I think that is how you would get a situation as shown above, but I cannot be sure. So you would essentially have the engine spinning and registering range 6 but then right when you press in the clutch it would stop registering and you wouldn't be recording on the way down. Not sure.
Also, since range 6 is limitless, something like anything > 9500 RPM, it could have gone sky high like 14000, in which it would be sitting in that range longer than the narrower range 5 or range 4?


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