The Spyder / Cayman R Auction Thread
#346
I think that's a good price for seller given the mileage and wear. I'm surprised to see the pronounced plate holes and that dent below the center front grill, being the front bumper and hood were repaired after the theft incident. I personally like the tint, yellow fogs, and red side decal, but it's true they are not good for an auction.
For 2021 vs 2022 Cayman R auctions, that's a 40% increase in average mileage with only a 7% decline in average sale price!
#347
thanks for posting, I assume you are referring strictly to the 2010-11 cars? it would be interesting to see manual v PDK, buckets v sofas, etc. I purchased my Boxster Spyder in September 2018 with 21K miles for $50,000. Excellent condition appropriately maintained, no stories. I bought it to enjoy it, drive it, not an investment proposition. PDK, sofas. I have not put a lot of miles on it because I live in Winter and have other P-cars to drive. It now clocks in at 32,000 miles, so 3K per year, non-grocery getter, non-cross-country trips, just enjoyable back road and PCA get togethers. I'm surprised to see it could sell for north of 60. I attribute this to BaT. It's the perfect scenario to inflate prices. Men v men bidding to "win" an auction, potentially way ward bids (just for the heck of it, maybe spike the market?). Good news that you didn't add in the 5% buyer's premium. Imagine those prices? I recently bid on a car on BaT and witnessed first-hand experience of prices skyrocketing for no real reason.
#348
thanks for posting, I assume you are referring strictly to the 2010-11 cars? it would be interesting to see manual v PDK, buckets v sofas, etc. I purchased my Boxster Spyder in September 2018 with 21K miles for $50,000. Excellent condition appropriately maintained, no stories. I bought it to enjoy it, drive it, not an investment proposition. PDK, sofas. I have not put a lot of miles on it because I live in Winter and have other P-cars to drive. It now clocks in at 32,000 miles, so 3K per year, non-grocery getter, non-cross-country trips, just enjoyable back road and PCA get togethers. I'm surprised to see it could sell for north of 60. I attribute this to BaT. It's the perfect scenario to inflate prices. Men v men bidding to "win" an auction, potentially way ward bids (just for the heck of it, maybe spike the market?). Good news that you didn't add in the 5% buyer's premium. Imagine those prices? I recently bid on a car on BaT and witnessed first-hand experience of prices skyrocketing for no real reason.
I owned a Peridot Cayman R bought used in 2013 and driven 22,000 miles and tracked a lot for 3 years until I got the build slot for my 981 GT4. In my opinion, the pricing reflects values, and I’ve seen some cars sell well above $60k. I have followed the market with the notion of possibly purchasing another R (but I don’t see that happening with current values).
Of all the P cars I/we have owned, the ONLY one I regret selling is the Cayman R. For me, it was my “Goldilocks” car. Not too big nor little…just right. But I didn’t know that until I moved on.
I absolutely loved my 981 GT4 and I currently love my 718 GT4 even more - but there was something about that R that was unique. Amazing steering feel. Super nimble. The worst part of the car was the rather vague manual gearbox (especially compared to 981 GT4 gearbox) but other than that I loved everything about it. And I know the gearbox could be improved with some aftermarket products.
I am listed in the current owner’s will as having first right of refusal to buy it when he eventually sells his collection. The buyer owns a couple hundred cars and specifically wanted to add this car (and also to track it with his daughter). Every so often, one of his caretakers calls me with a question. The owner sent me a few photos of a couple of his storage buildings, and my R was sitting amongst 959, ‘73RS, 1957 356A Speedster, etc…
I think they are special cars, but it all depends what you like and how you want to use it. Everyone is different, but the Cayman R sure put a huge grin on my face every time I drove it, and check all the right “boxes” for me.
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A432 (01-08-2023)
#349
Spyder at Porsche St. Louis
Anybody know this car?
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
#350
Anybody know this car?
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
#352
Anybody know this car?
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
https://www.porschestlouis.com/used-...CB2A81BS745581
I’m waiting on a DME report, but curious if anyone on here owned it And could shed light on its history and any non-obvious mods (eg Carnewal exhaust, shifter etc). Thanks.
Looks like when it was in Ohio it was at a CarMax and sold in August 2020 for $48k when it had 41k miles on it.
#353
2012 Cayman R for sale. White. Buckets. PCCBs. PDK. 10,600 miles. $85k. WP0AB2A89CS793399
https://mart.pca.org/ads/60366
The Cayman R was only produced in 2012 and is the basis for the GT4. This Cayman has a full roll cage, factory ground effects and rear wing. The vehicle was made with carbon fibre seats in black alcantera, and two 6 point Schroth harnesses. 3 point factory harnesses are still installed with warning indicator bypassed with false / loose buckle insert at receiver. Just put the harness behind the seat and drive it as a street car if you wish. Leading edge clear taped. The vehicle is equipped with Pagid high temperature brake pads, oversized high temperature rotors and high temperature fluid. Always garaged, always trailered. Does have tag and registration (passed emissions), but is trailered nonetheless.
Professionally maintained by well known Atlanta shop and all records are available to serious buyers. The R is equipped with Regular mode, Sport mode and Super sport modes ; the exhaust baffles can be opened with a switch on the dash. Computer assist mode can also be turned off via a dashboard switch. Factory lap timing installed. Rennline tow hooks front and rear. Original manuals in the glove box. Comes with custom car dust cover. Always stored inside.
Bluetooth radio to phone or USB. Intercom system for in car communication between driver and passenger and all track tools available.
Cayman also has factory PCCB carbon ceramic pads and rotors if you prefer. They are here and available with the car.
Two programmed keys available.
Being near Atlanta (Porsche headquarters) parts are easy to obtain now as always and plenty of knowledgeable mechanics. Car inspected between each trip.
Super track car or daily driver.
Marietta, Georgia
https://mart.pca.org/ads/60366
The Cayman R was only produced in 2012 and is the basis for the GT4. This Cayman has a full roll cage, factory ground effects and rear wing. The vehicle was made with carbon fibre seats in black alcantera, and two 6 point Schroth harnesses. 3 point factory harnesses are still installed with warning indicator bypassed with false / loose buckle insert at receiver. Just put the harness behind the seat and drive it as a street car if you wish. Leading edge clear taped. The vehicle is equipped with Pagid high temperature brake pads, oversized high temperature rotors and high temperature fluid. Always garaged, always trailered. Does have tag and registration (passed emissions), but is trailered nonetheless.
Professionally maintained by well known Atlanta shop and all records are available to serious buyers. The R is equipped with Regular mode, Sport mode and Super sport modes ; the exhaust baffles can be opened with a switch on the dash. Computer assist mode can also be turned off via a dashboard switch. Factory lap timing installed. Rennline tow hooks front and rear. Original manuals in the glove box. Comes with custom car dust cover. Always stored inside.
Bluetooth radio to phone or USB. Intercom system for in car communication between driver and passenger and all track tools available.
Cayman also has factory PCCB carbon ceramic pads and rotors if you prefer. They are here and available with the car.
Two programmed keys available.
Being near Atlanta (Porsche headquarters) parts are easy to obtain now as always and plenty of knowledgeable mechanics. Car inspected between each trip.
Super track car or daily driver.
Marietta, Georgia
#354
2012 Cayman R for sale. White. Buckets. PCCBs. PDK. 10,600 miles. $85k. WP0AB2A89CS793399
https://mart.pca.org/ads/60366
The Cayman R was only produced in 2012 and is the basis for the GT4. This Cayman has a full roll cage, factory ground effects and rear wing. The vehicle was made with carbon fibre seats in black alcantera, and two 6 point Schroth harnesses. 3 point factory harnesses are still installed with warning indicator bypassed with false / loose buckle insert at receiver. Just put the harness behind the seat and drive it as a street car if you wish. Leading edge clear taped. The vehicle is equipped with Pagid high temperature brake pads, oversized high temperature rotors and high temperature fluid. Always garaged, always trailered. Does have tag and registration (passed emissions), but is trailered nonetheless.
Professionally maintained by well known Atlanta shop and all records are available to serious buyers. The R is equipped with Regular mode, Sport mode and Super sport modes ; the exhaust baffles can be opened with a switch on the dash. Computer assist mode can also be turned off via a dashboard switch. Factory lap timing installed. Rennline tow hooks front and rear. Original manuals in the glove box. Comes with custom car dust cover. Always stored inside.
Bluetooth radio to phone or USB. Intercom system for in car communication between driver and passenger and all track tools available.
Cayman also has factory PCCB carbon ceramic pads and rotors if you prefer. They are here and available with the car.
Two programmed keys available.
Being near Atlanta (Porsche headquarters) parts are easy to obtain now as always and plenty of knowledgeable mechanics. Car inspected between each trip.
Super track car or daily driver.
Marietta, Georgia
https://mart.pca.org/ads/60366
The Cayman R was only produced in 2012 and is the basis for the GT4. This Cayman has a full roll cage, factory ground effects and rear wing. The vehicle was made with carbon fibre seats in black alcantera, and two 6 point Schroth harnesses. 3 point factory harnesses are still installed with warning indicator bypassed with false / loose buckle insert at receiver. Just put the harness behind the seat and drive it as a street car if you wish. Leading edge clear taped. The vehicle is equipped with Pagid high temperature brake pads, oversized high temperature rotors and high temperature fluid. Always garaged, always trailered. Does have tag and registration (passed emissions), but is trailered nonetheless.
Professionally maintained by well known Atlanta shop and all records are available to serious buyers. The R is equipped with Regular mode, Sport mode and Super sport modes ; the exhaust baffles can be opened with a switch on the dash. Computer assist mode can also be turned off via a dashboard switch. Factory lap timing installed. Rennline tow hooks front and rear. Original manuals in the glove box. Comes with custom car dust cover. Always stored inside.
Bluetooth radio to phone or USB. Intercom system for in car communication between driver and passenger and all track tools available.
Cayman also has factory PCCB carbon ceramic pads and rotors if you prefer. They are here and available with the car.
Two programmed keys available.
Being near Atlanta (Porsche headquarters) parts are easy to obtain now as always and plenty of knowledgeable mechanics. Car inspected between each trip.
Super track car or daily driver.
Marietta, Georgia
#355
2011 Boxster Spyder on BaT
Black on black, PDK, 32k miles
Lightweight carbon buckets, Sport Chrono, Xenon
WP0CB2A80BS745555
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...ter-spyder-65/
Black on black, PDK, 32k miles
Lightweight carbon buckets, Sport Chrono, Xenon
WP0CB2A80BS745555
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...ter-spyder-65/
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SFZ GT3 (02-14-2023)
#357
Agree that $60k was probably the right number. But, the aftermarket stereo install looked tacky as did the radar detector controls.
And the canvas top was filthy. Why sellers don’t understand the “put your best foot forward” mantra is beyond me.
DaveGee
And the canvas top was filthy. Why sellers don’t understand the “put your best foot forward” mantra is beyond me.
DaveGee
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SFZ GT3 (02-14-2023)
#358
Full disclosure, I am a 2011 Boxster Spyder owner, 31,000 miles, Arctic silver over black, PDK Sport Chrono, Sport steering wheel with paddles, Borla after-market exhaust, otherwise bone stock. Always maintained and garaged. Love the car, the drive, the handling the top (especially the sunshade feature, no rear window or partition) ... Anyway, I digress, I am surprised this black on black, LWB, PDK didn't meet reserve. A few months ago, a similar mileage car, OK a manual, black on black sold for plus $60K. Also note in post-auction ending comments on this car an individual noted they recently sold a similar car for $63K. I agree the top on this car should have been cleaned up, the after-market info-tainment system and radar button/wiring were issues. Also, for me I prefer paddles to buttons with PDK.
Perhaps the market is softening?
Perhaps the market is softening?
#359
From a macro perspective, a softening is probably finally happening to more attractive specialty cars. (it's been happening overall for 4-5 months)
If it continues, it should expand to GT3/GT4/Classic 911's etc. etc. but then the supply/demand curve gets wonky when you're down to very few examples.
Depends how bad investor confidence gets as a recession becomes more and more likely (not predicting, simply saying prices will decrease more if that happens)
United States Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index YoY - January 2023 Data (tradingeconomics.com)
If it continues, it should expand to GT3/GT4/Classic 911's etc. etc. but then the supply/demand curve gets wonky when you're down to very few examples.
Depends how bad investor confidence gets as a recession becomes more and more likely (not predicting, simply saying prices will decrease more if that happens)
United States Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index YoY - January 2023 Data (tradingeconomics.com)
#360
From a macro perspective, a softening is probably finally happening to more attractive specialty cars. (it's been happening overall for 4-5 months)
If it continues, it should expand to GT3/GT4/Classic 911's etc. etc. but then the supply/demand curve gets wonky when you're down to very few examples.
Depends how bad investor confidence gets as a recession becomes more and more likely (not predicting, simply saying prices will decrease more if that happens)
United States Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index YoY - January 2023 Data (tradingeconomics.com)
If it continues, it should expand to GT3/GT4/Classic 911's etc. etc. but then the supply/demand curve gets wonky when you're down to very few examples.
Depends how bad investor confidence gets as a recession becomes more and more likely (not predicting, simply saying prices will decrease more if that happens)
United States Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index YoY - January 2023 Data (tradingeconomics.com)