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^^^yup they have to take the wheel off, unwrap it add the marker and then re -wrap it and put the wheel back on, yes I think it would be simpler to put the green marker on in the saddle shop first
If you really want it to match the stripes, you can go with CXX stripes that match the available colours for the steering wheel marker... but then you'd have to pay for CXX stripes too. Something to consider. Maybe something like this colour for Acid??? Exclusive would be able to confirm the best match.
FWIW I did the steering wheel marker on my GT3 and it was around that price, including restoring the platinum stitching on the steering wheel. I am happy I did it in the end, as I've more or less forgotten about the cost now! (except for reminders like this )
^^^yup they have to take the wheel off, unwrap it add the marker and then re -wrap it and put the wheel back on, yes I think it would be simpler to put the green marker on in the saddle shop first
Yeah I agree. Why Porsche couldn't do it before attaching the modified (CXX request) 12 O'Clock marker is more than likely out of their logistical production process. Thus regular production steering wheel has to be installed, then it has to be taken out and re-wrapped with the CXX color by the outside vendor.
Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
If you really want it to match the stripes, you can go with CXX stripes that match the available colours for the steering wheel marker... but then you'd have to pay for CXX stripes too. Something to consider. Maybe something like this colour for Acid??? Exclusive would be able to confirm the best match.
FWIW I did the steering wheel marker on my GT3 and it was around that price, including restoring the platinum stitching on the steering wheel. I am happy I did it in the end, as I've more or less forgotten about the cost now! (except for reminders like this )
Thank you for the feedback. I really like the outside Green color stripes since the color is more subtle that the Acid Green. The dealer informed me the only available color for the 12 O'Clock marker is Acid Green which is very different from the outside Green stripes of the car. Plus I don't think you can request "Acid Green" for the exterior stripes for the car.
The only choices for the exterior stripes is Red, Green, or delete the exterior stripes. My base color is the GT Silver.
The only choices for the exterior stripes is Red, Green, or delete the exterior stripes. My base color is the GT Silver.[/COLOR]
You can get any colour stripes (beyond the standard red and green) if you spec CXX stripes. Any colour from the 3M palette, that is. And you're right, there is no Acid green I'm aware of in 3M's product line, but so-called "Lime green" (above) or maybe another 3M green may be close enough not to be noticeably different.
You can get any colour stripes (beyond the standard red and green) if you spec CXX stripes. Any colour from the 3M palette, that is. And you're right, there is no Acid green I'm aware of in 3M's product line, but so-called "Lime green" (above) or maybe another 3M green may be close enough not to be noticeably different.
I will call the dealer Tuesday (Monday is 4th Holiday). I will ask what CXX shades of green stripes are available.
If it doesn't blend well with base GT Silver color, I might just drop the idea of changing the 12 O'clock steering wheel marker. Thank you and I appreciate your helpful insights.
I will call the dealer Tuesday (Monday is 4th Holiday). I will ask what CXX shades of green stripes are available.
If it doesn't blend well with base GT Silver color, I might just drop the idea of changing the 12 O'clock steering wheel marker. Thank you and I appreciate your helpful insights.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
You will have better results with Personaldesign@porsche.us. My experience is that only a few salespeople can talk to what CXX options are truly available.
You will have better results with Personaldesign@porsche.us. My experience is that only a few salespeople can talk to what CXX options are truly available.
You will have better results with Personaldesign@porsche.us. My experience is that only a few salespeople can talk to what CXX options are truly available.
My dealer is one of the few "Porsche Exclusive" dealer. I will still follow it up via email with the address you provided. Thank you for your assistance.
The 12 O'Clock marker is a standard black leather color.
The standard 12 O'Clock marker on my GT3RS is Yellow.
Last week as the lock date is getting close for me, for
individuality and uniqueness I wanted to make the 12
O'Clock marker on the steering wheel to match the
"Green" stripe on the car. I inquired to my dealer how
much this request (CXX Option) would cost me. To my
amazement I was informed it would cost me $4,780.00.
I was on the fence about it, but what threw me off
was that I cannot have that same color "Racing Green"
which I think is the name of that Green stripe (Maybe
PTS Subject Matter Expert Eduardo can chime in).
Instead I was informed it will be "Acid Green." Well
that wouldn't match the exterior stripe so I retracted
my original request.
Originally Posted by lessthan3mph
If you really want it to match the stripes, you can go
with CXX stripes that match the available colours for
the steering wheel marker... but then you'd have to
pay for CXX stripes too. Something to consider.
Maybe something like this colour for Acid???
Exclusive would be able to confirm the best match.
Daniel is on top of this & has provided Fan1 some very
good responses. I will just add a few points to further
in the general discussion on this topic.
Imagine this 'Acid Green' stripe on the new 918-type
wheel in leather for the 911R. This is what it will look
like:
vs
Standard 911R wheel:
Note that the new steering wheel has a smaller (less wide) marker.
So the 'Acid Green' will actually be thinner. But it will be in leather
& not alcantara as in your 991 gt3 RS. An alcantara steering wheel
option is available on the 911R, but it's damn expensive on that model!
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Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1
Why Porsche couldn't do it before attaching the modified
(CXX request) 12 O'Clock marker is more than likely out
of their logistical production process. Thus regular production
steering wheel has to be installed, then it has to be taken
out and re-wrapped with the CXX color by the outside
vendor.
I really like the outside Green color stripes since the color
is more subtle that the Acid Green. The dealer informed
me the only available color for the 12 O'Clock marker is
Acid Green which is very different from the outside Green
stripes of the car. Plus I don't think you can request
"Acid Green" for the exterior stripes for the car.
The only choices for the exterior stripes is Red, Green, or
delete the exterior stripes. My base color is the GT Silver.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1
The 12 O'Clock marker from what I had been informed
will be done outside of the factory (Porsche affiliated
vendor), and they will remove the steering wheel and
rewrap it with the Acid Green 12 O'Clock marker. The
outside vendor I think contributes to the high cost for
this CXX request.
The way 'Porsche Exclusive' works for certain options is unusual,
but it does follow some weird 'logic'. Here is how it works. For
those options which are so rare that they have a small 'pick up',
or order rate, they will not install them on the assembly line. For
example, if you order a 'Porsche Exclusive' exhaust option, that is
usually in high demand & will be able to be install in the assembly
line via normal 'Just in Time' & 'Just in Sequence' logistics from the
outside vendor.
But if you order the headlight cleaning nozzles in a deviating color,
which is not in high demand, the standard nozzles (e.g. chrome on
the 991 & black on the 911R) will be installed in assembly line process
& not what you ordered. Then, after the car is completed its assembly,
it's taken to the special workshop behind the 'Customer Center' at
Zuffenhausen (factory delivery area) & the front bumpers removed,
the original nozzles removed, the painted nozzles added & the front
bumper re-attached to your car! That doesn't pencil out for PAG at
$295 for the cost of the deviating color nozzles...but that is the way
they do it.
Same for the steering wheel with a deviating color marker at 12
O'Clock. I think they would install a regular steering wheel during
production & then exchange the standard wheel for the one with
the deviating color marker you ordered at the 'Porsche Exclusive'
workshop after the car has finished its assembly! Technically, the
standard steering wheel they used in the assembly line is now used
& they probably would not be allowed to use in another customer's
911R in case it's damaged or nicked during its removal. This might
account for the seemingly high cost of this option. But why they
couldn't use a 'loaner' steering wheel during the initial assembly
is not clear to me! But then again, I think like an American & not
like a German...
I have stopped trying to make sense of the pricing of 'Porsche
Exclusive' options. With the highly sophisticated 'just in time'
& 'just in sequence' logistics that is currently in place at Zuffenhausen,
I don't see why some (if not all) 'Porsche Exclusive' options are
not installed on the assembly line in the first place! But there
has to be some reason (technical or labor union rule) why PAG
continues to do it this rather odd way. If you look it how the
system works in real life, you'll realize that some 'Porsche Exclusive'
options are relative bargains (e.g. deviating color nozzles). And
some, like deviating 12 O'Clock markers, are simply outrageous.
So I pick & choose what to order from them!
***
Originally Posted by GT3RS-Fan1
My dealer is one of the few "Porsche Exclusive" dealer.
I will still follow it up via email with the address you
provided. Thank you for your assistance.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
The US dealers that have received special training on 'Porsche
Exclusive' are called 'Exclusive Flagship' dealers. There are not
many of them, so you must be dealing with 'The Exchange'!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Presently in Vail Valley, Colorado
I admire you knowledge about PTS. You are very helpful along with many others in this forum. Your illustration of the Acid Green 12 O'Clock marker does help a lot for comparison as it was in the Turbo S that was introduced with the 918 initial launch.
However, I am not sure if the CXX Acid Green exterior stripe will sit well on a base GT Silver color. It might just be too striking/contrasting unlike the standard Green they are using. I will still inquire how much the CXX stripe will cost and keep you posted. Lastly, I'm surprised Acid Green is the only color available as I was informed for the 12 O'Clock steering wheel marker.
Trying to picture in my mind how the Acid Green striping (which may or may not be available in the 3M palette) would look against GT Silver color. Something to ponder about this weekend. I didn't think it would be this complicated and trivial.
Happy 4th Everyone!
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Last edited by GT3RS-Fan1; 07-03-2016 at 11:05 PM.
Reason: added picture and added some verbiage.
It is my impression that the palette of colors available for the deviated stitching is relatively limited compared to those of Exterior PTS, Interior Leather-to-Sample, and Exclusive stripes/decals. A good friend of mine who owns a Lichtgrün RS with a myriad of Porsche Exclusive options said Acid Green was the closest color to Lichtgrün available for the interior deviated stitching, embroidery, and LWB seats piping.
Trying to picture in my mind how the Acid Green striping (which may be even available in the 3M palette) would look against GT Silver color.
Maybe something like this?
If you want my unsolicited opinion, you could skip the roof stripes in "Acid green" since that might be a little bit much in such a vibrant colour. BTW, were you intending to leave the seat belts and door pulls silver? And it might not hurt to ask if they'd do CXX calipers in Acid green...
It is my impression that the palette of colors available for the deviated stitching is relatively limited compared to those of Exterior PTS, Interior Leather-to-Sample, and Exclusive stripes/decals. A good friend of mine who owns a Lichtgrün RS with a myriad of Porsche Exclusive options said Acid Green was the closest color to Lichtgrün available for the interior deviated stitching, embroidery, and LWB seats piping.
Will, just curious, what colour will you choose for your future Porsche? It certainly is no surprise, regarding your love of the PTS game.
Will, just curious, what colour will you choose for your future Porsche? It certainly is no surprise, regarding your love of the PTS game.
I've admittedly pondered about this for more than I should have. Too many come into mind, and some colors that work for one car are not the best for others. Could dream about this for days.
For a non-GT car, with my favorite being the RWD GTS, I would spec mine in PTS Irish Green, with GT3 wheels in Silver and PCCBs (like the R's setup). I would also request CXX side decals with Porsche script to look like this recently restored '71 911T RS-look.
I realized later that the said ideal build is pretty much that of the PTS British Racing Green R that Porsche built to test the feasibility of CXX stripes/decals. The one that everyone claimed (including me at one point) was AP's personal car.
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Now for a GT car, I still struggle to pick just one. Fashion Grey is one of my favorites as it looks stunning in pictures. I feel like it would be either much better or maybe not as good in person. I haven't lucked out yet on seeing one in person.
Aqua Blue is also up there, and it has to be with Silver wheels and PCCBs. Like the one from Brumos Porsche.
And just for the RS, I would say Miami Blue (not PTS but) has consistently looked good. With a strong emphasis on just for the RS.
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Just thinking about all this is quite the joy. Hopefully having the opportunity to build one out for real isn't in the too distant future. Thanks for the question.
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