Originally Posted by Z356

Pfaff Porsche / Woodbridge, Ontario
PTS (reported to us as 'Viper Green')
2014 991 Carrera 4S / MSRP CAD 174,540.

022 - Instrument Dials in Black
030 - PASM Sport Suspension
24931 - Color to sample
342 - Seat heating (front)
509 - Fire Extinguisher
529 - SportDesign exterior mirrors
581 - Luggage net passenger footwell
583 - Smoking package
602 - Full LED headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS +)
653 - Electric glass slide/tilt sunroof
789 - Code for exterior colour to sample
98 - Exterior Paint to Sample Non-Metallic
AJ - Black leather front seats
CGU - Headlight cleaning system cover painted deviating exterior color
CLB - Gear lever in Alcantara
CNG - Rear Apron Painted
CPK - Vehicle key painted
CXX - Individual CT-option (only after consultation)
EES - Interior package leather (without leather interior)
P05 - Sport Seats Plus
P3H - BOSE® Audio Package
X51 - Powerkit Carrera S
XAA - Aerokit Cup
XHB - Centre console trim leather
XLK - SportDesign steering wheel in Alcantara
XSC - Porsche Crest on headrests
ZSS - Auto Start Stop

Note option CXX. It relates for sure to the top exterior mirrors painted in high gloss black and the stem painted in exterior color!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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Originally Posted by zirrah

Hoffman in Hartford CT has one. Mexico blue :-)

Originally Posted by Z356

4) McKenna, Norwalk, CA
Unspecified PTS (dealer claims 'Signal Orange' but I say 'Signal Yellow')
2014 Carrera 4S / $144,140 (photo 7)

Originally Posted by Z356

It looks to me like 'Signal Yellow'. PTS color code 114. Historic early 911 long hood color. One of my favorites. I had an original paint 'Signal Yellow' 1973 911T Sunroof Coupe. I am sure someone can ask McKenna & confirm.

Originally Posted by Z356

I have exchanged some interesting emails with them today. Eventually, it went up all the way to Bob Hogan, the General Manager. It was so puzzling that I even sent an email to Daniel McKenna, the dealer principal, to see if he could shed some light on the subject! The story is a bit confusing and I am trying to get to the bottom of it before I report it here in full. In general I think McKenna is a pretty good dealership and I want to be fair to them. So I hope they provide me more information tomorrow and I'll report back to this thread on what they are saying about this PTS color! l

Originally Posted by Z356

...The first 991 done in that PTS 'Signal Yellow' for the US might have just arrived at a dealership here in California. A Porsche dealer in the LA area has a 4S in a color that looks suspiciously like 'Signal Yellow' to me (last two photos thanks to Rennlister AdrianJara!). However, the General Manager is insisting in personal email exchanges I had with their dealership today that it's a completely different PTS color! I'll get to the bottom of this mystery pretty soon and report back.

Originally Posted by reidry

Eduardo, I was in LA today on business and had time to drop by McKenna Porsche in Norwalk, CA to have a look at the car in question. Parked next to it was a Signal Yellow '73 and the 991 was definitely not the same color. This 991 which the dealer professes is Signal Orange definitely has a significant orange tone, not a mustard tone like Speed Yellow, but definite orange. Inside the showroom the color appears similar to the orange taxi cabs that run around LA.

I must say the Signal Yellow '73 was striking. Regardless of the name, the color on the 991 was too orange for my taste. Ryan

Originally Posted by Z356

Thanks Ryan. I like the term you used - 'professes' - re: 'Signal Orange'. I am trying to get to the bottom of this mystery. As of the last published PTS list I have dated 1/23/2014, 'Signal Orange' was not an approved PTS color! It was not even under 'feasibility check started' or 'feasibility check needed'. So we are led to believe by this dealer that since that recent 1/23/2014 date, this historic & beautiful early 911 color -- 'Signal Orange' -- has been tested & approved by Porsche and ordered, built and delivered to a dealer in California. Tall order...but stranger things have happened at Porsche!

Of course, the dealership in question could lay all doubts to rest by producing the exact color code for the paint color, which is listed in the paperwork of the vehicle received from PCNA and also marked clearly on a visible part of the vehicle. In the 997 era, the 'colour code' was on a sticker applied to the inside part of the gas lid! It might still be the case with the 991 model.

But the dealership yesterday refused to supply that information. Instead, if offered two different numbers '98' & '789' which they claimed was the color code of their car when in fact I proved to them they were general codes that pertained to metallic or non-metallic paint and the fact the exterior paint was 'paint to sample'. Neither revealed the true color code of the PTS color in question. So the sheer ignorance of the staff handling these questions, which included their general manager Bob Hogan, was simply staggering!

My initial impression when I first looked at the photos posted in the 991 forum was that the color was PTS 'Signal Yellow', which is 'available' & has color code 114. I must remind you that factory-original 'Signal Yellow' paint has a bit of 'orange' in it! It is a gorgeous, rich color and I was lucky to have owned a factory original example in that color on a 1973 911T Sunroof Coupe. The so-called 'Signal Yellow' 1973 911 that McKenna parked right next to its PTS 991 would be telling, or revealing, ONLY IF the 'Signal Yellow' paint on that early 911 was original factory paint from 1972/1973! When I owned my '73 'Signal Yellow' coupe, many of my friends used to refer to it as 'your Orange 911'! You would be surprised how many repainted/restored 911's done in 'Signal Yellow' are not truly representative of the correct, factory-original hue! 'Signal Yellow' is notorious for being hard, almost impossible, to duplicate...I learned that lesson the hard way.

I have inquiries with PCNA re: the availability of 'Signal Orange'. I truly hope I am too pessimistic and indeed 'Signal Orange' is approved & on the exterior of that 991 at McKenna! I simply love 'Signal Orange'. It's one of the most beautiful colors ever used on the early long hood 911's. So we will see. I'll keep you all posted.

Originally Posted by GJ

McKenna told my dealer its Signal Orange but did not provide the color code....
I would hope one dealer to another could be trusted.......

Originally Posted by Z356

Thanks GJ. I am still laughing at this one. Trusted...one dealer to another! Yes, in a perfect world. And even then...'perhaps' !!!

But I am ready to be convinced that what McKenna has is indeed 'Signal Orange'. I just want to see a photo of the 'colour' code on the inside of that 'petrol' lid!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by reidry

Eduardo, I met with the GM, Bob Hogan, once he realized I was interested in viewing the color and not buying the car he was immediately less interested in our conversation. He was adamant that the color was Signal Orange...Ryan

Originally Posted by Z356

Thanks Ryan. Interesting, Herr Hogan. I smell something...I still have a beer/wine reward going for anyone that can 'push' pass GM Bob Hogan or Sales Manager Primo Garcia at McKenna and get a photograph of the colour code on the gas lid or any other documentation on the car re: its PTS color and code! I may have to raise the bet to two beers if one is not enough to motivate a Rennlister to be daring enough to take this 'PTS Challenge'!

Originally Posted by 991GT3

LOL. This is starting to get interesting.

Originally Posted by Z356

I am betting that it is PTS 'Signal Yellow' - color code 114. The dealership is saying it's 'Signal Orange' and not providing any details on the color code.
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by GJ

The color of this car at McKenna is Signal Yellow, #114. Confirmed by PCNA.....

Originally Posted by mcsmcs1

Yet another pathetic dealer. I mean why not go to the trouble to just look at the paint code on the car and answer the question directly or just check the build sheet? Jerks And wrong of course on top of it all. They assured people it was Signal Orange out of pure ignorance.

Originally Posted by Z356

I will post shortly the new PTS list that Matthew Henry has so kindly provided me so that we can inform our forum on the latest PTS colors approved, rejected and/or under consideration at PAG!

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

By the way, Eduardo, I've had my superhero / superstar Porsche sales guy submit something for feasibility review for me.

One of my all-time favorite colors, that I'm hoping will eventually be approved by the time allocs for some of the upcoming special 991's hit.

226 Chartreuse

Originally Posted by Z356

Kudos to you & Brett Payne at Sonnen! You are both doing all of us a great favor by getting the feasibility tests on this spectacular color started! Hopefully it will be approved.

Originally Posted by Z356

As some of you know, Chartreuse is a historic early 911 color from 1972/1973. It was sometimes referred here is 'Lime Green'. But the color code was always the same - 226. This color was chosen by a fellow member of R Gruppe for his Limited Edition 4.0 gt3 RS, so we know it was approved for a .2 997. That might give us hope for the 991/981 body!

Originally Posted by Z356

It is an absolutely stunning color...perfect for those of you that want a historic color closely associated with the first 911 RS's!

Originally Posted by Z356

Matthew Henry of 'Porsche Exclusive' in the US has been kind enough to provide us with this latest list of PTS from PAG. ...

Originally Posted by apias

Kind of weird that Yachting Blue Metallic is listed as "feasibility check necessary" for the Panamera when it's already an available color for the Panamera.

Originally Posted by Z356

Matthew Henry of 'Porsche Exclusive' in the US has been kind enough to provide us with this latest list of PTS from PAG. The list has a new feature in that it identifies 'new' colors on the list - although that doesn't mean these colors were approved! The PTS window is currently open for orders on MY2015 models. Saludos, Eduardo Carmel PS I have also attached the January 23, 2014 PTS list so that you can see the changes from that date to the present!