red996

Still like that Guards red yea? Didn't you own my old GR 996 for like 5 min?

sm7400

They’ve had this car for 18 months. It was 164K. Disappeared for a few months and then showed up again. Been slowly dropping in price.

Onami

Tried to get the original MSRP and I think it was a US car originally. Appears to have been bought at an auction.

I was there again today picking up a gas cap for my 993. Lots of 911’s for sale and many have been there for a long time. My old Arena Red 993 Tip is there on a lift - not sure if it is in storage or for sale as it has plates on it.

Saw Thomas Kaberle there today too…he is a big boy!

timothymoffat

Guilty as charged! It was actually 7 months but who's counting? That car was virtually brand new when I bought it from Weissach after your ownership. For that reason, I swapped for a second 993 in the fall of 2008 that was more "driver quality". I'd actually love to have that car back if it was in decent shape.

The GT Silver manual T at PCO has indeed been around for a long time. When it disappeared over the winter it was listed at another used-luxury car outlet in the area, I assume owned by the same ownership group. It DOES have ultra low km (<5K) and the coveted buckets. When I traded my white 991.2 T (another "5-minute" car!) last October it was a car I considered. The JBM manual car I ended up getting had the benefit of being relatively local, had the RAS and Bose, and the standard seats that are likely more realistic for what I use the car for if not as sexy as the buckets. There's been substantial movement on the CPO 991.2s listed recently, as in finally selling. I know what my current JBM T was listed at when I made my offer last October and I also know what I paid for the white PDK T and the difference to get the JBM car. The total was substantially less than the $174K it was listed at and it was the second lowest mile T for sale in Canada.

red996

Guards Red is an awesome color. It really pops when freshly polished with a nice coat of wax. It's really flash. Maybe vulgar? Whatever! It's a sports car. It should be fun....

GTA_991

I'm in the GTA and currently looking for a 991.2 GT3 RS. What do you guys think is a fair value for a 2019, non weissach with roughly 15k on it? I noticed a few of the local dealers have a few of them listed at 299k but they're all sitting.

SToronto

Hard to say fair value at the moment. Prices are on a downward trend. I would say wait it out until the winter.

Vise

Yeah $299k asking price but can't hurt to see what they'd actually accept? I'd assume they paid top dollar for them but perhaps there is some desperation to move them out of inventory if they've been sitting for a while.

Before the market went crazy I recall seeing a lightly optioned (non-Weissach) .2 RS listed for $250k on Autotrader which would have been around MSRP. We'll see if those days come back...

RealityGT

OP, as mentioned above you should wait it out...
Loans are tight and HELOC's are running dry.. lots more to be listed in the coming month is my bet.

GTA_991

Yes I've started to consider waiting as an option if I don't find one in the 280s. I don't mind losing a little bit through ownership but don't want to take a huge hit on the car just because of bad timing.

Yeah I think I'll stop by the dealership and see what the wiggle room is like. 250 would be amazing of course but I also don't want to wait too long and things go back in the other direction, although that seems very unlikely given the current state of our economy.

SToronto

Make an offer and see what happens, let us know the result.

I think the stock showing now has been sitting sometime, likely acquired at a higher purchase price. This being said, dealer might be looking to move it on even if at a loss or minimal profit.

Incoming stock I bet will be purchased at lower values, which should result in lower retails. Money is expensive now relative to recent years, goods are more expensive and 992 3RS have not landed in Canada en masse. Once more 992 deliveries happen, more trade-ins will be out there. I might go so far as to say we may see gently used 992 3RS in the used list come Spring 2024.

RDMcG

The 991RS ( I have one) is not hugely rare car compared to earlier generations so I would think there is a bit more downside than upside.

as always rarity is the key to long term value so while the car will likely not depreciate below MSRP I would be cautious about the current values.

Vise

Yeah and listed at $450k+ I'm sure. Have you seen the secondary market pricing on the GT4 RS? Lol.

GTA_991

No matter how I look at it, it seems like waiting might be the right call. I'll go check one out and see how flexible the pricing is at a dealer though, I'll update with results whenever I do.

That's the part that's got me so hesitant. I'd like to get into one, I've heard so many great things but don't want to rush and then be painfully negative on the car in a short period of time. That's why I figured I'd ask in here what fair value would be in your opinions, personally I felt like at 280ish it'd be a safe buy but after this discussion I'm not even sure about that.

sm7400

I’ve been watching the market for some time now looking for the right car and taking the advice to heart about waiting out the high prices. I’ve been on/off looking for a year and do see the inventory piling up a bit but I’m not seeing the prices come down to pre-COVID levels. Forum members have been predicting this collapse for as long as I’ve been looking. In the end I’ve landed on waiting it out and I think many others have as well based on inventory levels.

What I’m curious about is how the used sellers can let these cars take up inventory for such long stretches of time.