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Veloce Raptor

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flatsics

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-onboard-video

He downshifts twice...

Veloce Raptor

Yep. There he can get away with it. On the huge bumps into Sebring T7? With a LOT less real estate to deal with & walls close in on both sides? Nope.

Frank 993 C4S

Over the past 4 months I have seen two cars totaled while braking into T7 (without brake failure). It is very bumpy there, PLUS that continues into the old T7 run-off.

Veloce Raptor

Exactly

DTMiller

Gonna need to see some KE formulas misapplied before I take a side here....

flatsics

I know how bumpy that area is. Advocating a downshift or two doesn't mean to stuff it into 1st gear at 130. Anytime while going straight after about 35 seconds into the vid he could have safely downshifted. He is basically going straight and at a manageable speed to downshift for almost 5 seconds.

I'm not saying he is an idiot or that that i think I would have done any better.
I'm pretty certain I would have down shifted though.


I would really hate see a total brake failure there like the COTA video.

I love Sebring, but they don't spend any money on that place.

Most tracks weak attempts at driver safety are just pathetic.

Veloce Raptor

mark kibort

Peter, Im plenty familar with your experience. im only going what you are saying. if you cant take the heat, YOU can take your own advice. the point is, the guy driving is not a pro, if he was , it would have been second nature to do the downshifts, not locking up the rears, as that is EASY for any skilled driver and would have slowed before plowing through gates in neutral and almost killing two people. so, until you want to post something intelligent on the subject, you can STFU!

mark kibort

exactly!


really, "utter nonsense"" i sincerely hope you expand your skill set to incorporate simple downshifts in such a situation. maybe you can practice it once for yourself before judging, or as i say , "mockng what you dont understand" because clearly you are not getting it Dave. again, i have saved and continued on at laguna with total , catastrophic brake failure at turn 2.... downhill, to boot!! why did i survive??? survival techniques my big mouth pal!!
its simple ones you understand the technique and the forces involved.
what i am suggesting might not only save a life, but certainly some front bumper and underbody parts! talk to a real pro about this and they will clear things up for you!

flatsics

This poor guy...wonder if he downshifted.

Dr911

I'm pretty sure the brake failure was caused by shuffle steering.

ProCoach

mark kibort

oh my god, what are you smokin!!! DAVE for real??? he did the right thing there, and just wasnt the time nor distance to slow much more than he did but it lowered the speed for sure. now at turn 7? bumpy has NOTHING to do with it. that the camero driver could have done the exact same thing and been down to 1-2nd gear well before the fence. again, if he can be turning the car around service roads, he can be downshifting. DAVE the guy just coasted out the gates!!!! he had plenty of time and distance to do two quick downshifts, and he elected not to do it. surface quality has nothing to do with it!

(as a side note: i know what you are thinking, you think if the rears COULD lock up he would madly spin?? that is funny too. more car control stuff DAVE.. havent you ever taking rental cars and done 100mph e-brakes?? we used do to this all the time. the only time cars spin is if the driver makes you spin. this is a car control level that most drivers should have, but its irrelevant in this case. quick , blip downshifts in this situation is a must and easy to do.


yep... and too bad it was a high reving BMW motor rather than high engine braking V8. but it still had a very possitive effect.