View Poll Results: Is there cheating in PCA Racing
No, We are all gentlemen
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Yes, Other people but not me
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Yes, I have a few secrets of my own
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Do people cheat in PCA Club Racing?
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It was remarkable to see how quickly the crew was able to swap numbers on that sweet little SPB, and it was re-classified. And was permitted to continue racing.
Dear OP
Is this even a question to ask? OTOH perhaps I should thank you for, by asking the question, restoring my faith in the possible goodness of humanity. A refreshing change from the posturing/ego trips sometimes seen in this sport. (Ref: the PCA regions variability thread
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At a Limerock race back in 2014 I was right on the bumper of a guy, in my class running the same exact car, on the downhill and by the end of the front straight he was ten car lengths ahead. How's that happen?
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I had quite a few much simpler episodes at WGI this year. I would gain on a car between T1 and the first 1/4 of the esses, getting on its bumper. The same car would then gain four car-lengths between there and the bus-stop.
This situation is simpler than yours at LRP. I had obviously executed T1 better than the other car (otherwise I wouldn't have caught it before the esses), but in the parts where we're both WOT, and there is almost zero technical action (turning, braking, throttle) to differentiate performance, it sails four car-lengths away. How does that happen?
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It got nowhere then and it will get nowhere now. PCA does not want to get in the business of buying (or renting) a dyno and I don't blame them. Nor do they want the responsibility of blowing up someone's motor during a dyno pull.
None of the PCA classes are determined by horsepower limits. So what do they do with the info? Does PCA change the entire class structure?
Move on. It ain't gonna happen.
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Nor do they want the responsibility of blowing up someone's motor during a dyno pull.
None of the PCA classes are determined by horsepower limits. So what do they do with the info?
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But the "outliers" can now be successfully identified with the "black box" data units.
Without a big hp/weight PCA class, it would be a big waste of money and effort.
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Without a big hp/weight PCA class, it would be a big waste of money and effort.
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In Spec Boxster with only 190-200hp and with drafting it becomes very difficult to use a data unit to get usable info.
A dyno would tell a much more reliable and convincing story.
A dyno would tell a much more reliable and convincing story.
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No, this is my first PCA racing season. Not an expert but how would the AIM unit separate which parts of performance variations come from driver's skill and which from the car/motor? Also, there may be a lot of performance variations caused by perfectly legal differences in suspension set-up, tires (old, new), etc. A dyno would clearly reveal any variations in the most important units (the motors) which are also the least amenable to (legal) modifications by the rules of all classes.
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For years, I've thought about how funny it would be to see a mobile dyno pull into the paddock at one of the big races. How many people would suddenly develop catastrophic "engine failure" and pack it up and go home...
But since I started in 2009, I haven't seen any movement whatsoever. And it used to be proposed as a GT class rule change (hp/wt classing) every year.
Good luck!
But since I started in 2009, I haven't seen any movement whatsoever. And it used to be proposed as a GT class rule change (hp/wt classing) every year.
Good luck!
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