My bad experience renting a track car at Nurburgring
#121
Rennlist Member
Lots of **** and vinegar in this tread, very entertaining "he said / she said", reminds me of divorce court with a international twist...
After reading the article in Excellence magazine about the New Yorker who took European delivery of a new GT3, and drove a number of great tracks including the famous ones discussed here. I loved the article and afterwards added doing the same to my bucketlist. A lot faster than renting a crappy Clio, "sewing machine" without proper safety gear as roll cage and harness.
Yes, its not the same price.. but not the same expereince either.....
As i get older i have less and less patience for this kind of bullsh*t, although a good debate i would rather read on-line than expereince in real life... In running any kind of reatil business, One bad reference is more damaging than 1000 great ones, especially when it turns ugly like this tread has.
After reading the article in Excellence magazine about the New Yorker who took European delivery of a new GT3, and drove a number of great tracks including the famous ones discussed here. I loved the article and afterwards added doing the same to my bucketlist. A lot faster than renting a crappy Clio, "sewing machine" without proper safety gear as roll cage and harness.
Yes, its not the same price.. but not the same expereince either.....
As i get older i have less and less patience for this kind of bullsh*t, although a good debate i would rather read on-line than expereince in real life... In running any kind of reatil business, One bad reference is more damaging than 1000 great ones, especially when it turns ugly like this tread has.
and race pads depending on the car in question. Both companies take safety and proper preparation seriously.
#122
Rennlist Member
my opinion is - all that BS is much more about local pecking order than about 'real life actual experience'.
kinda entertaining but mostly pointless stuff.
kinda entertaining but mostly pointless stuff.
I can only speak for rentracecar.de but my experience with them was exactly as advertised. Seemed like a safe and well prepared car. I was well warned and prepared without being babied.
#123
Rennlist Member
Also Am-Tiergarten (Sabine's family hotel) are partnering with RSR to offer all-inclusive pkgs...
http://www.am-tiergarten.de/media/am...tenklause1.pdf
#124
Rennlist Member
Damn, that's a deal.
I'm getting hungry and thirsty looking at the pictures.
My German wife knows there are no more trips to Europe, let alone Germany that don't include at least a few laps at the Ring....
I hope to make it back there to join them for a track day in my own car next summer.
Larry, let's put 2 cars in a container!
Have 2 bedroom 2 car garage, must go..
I'm getting hungry and thirsty looking at the pictures.
My German wife knows there are no more trips to Europe, let alone Germany that don't include at least a few laps at the Ring....
I hope to make it back there to join them for a track day in my own car next summer.
Larry, let's put 2 cars in a container!
Have 2 bedroom 2 car garage, must go..
#125
Rennlist Member
Damn, that's a deal.
I'm getting hungry and thirsty looking at the pictures.
My German wife knows there are no more trips to Europe, let alone Germany that don't include at least a few laps at the Ring....
I hope to make it back there to join them for a track day in my own car next summer.
Larry, let's put 2 cars in a container!
Have 2 bedroom 2 car garage, must go..
I'm getting hungry and thirsty looking at the pictures.
My German wife knows there are no more trips to Europe, let alone Germany that don't include at least a few laps at the Ring....
I hope to make it back there to join them for a track day in my own car next summer.
Larry, let's put 2 cars in a container!
Have 2 bedroom 2 car garage, must go..
donations greatfully received!
#126
Rennlist Member
I keep thinking about moving my 996 GT3 to the continent--someplace between Spa and the Nürburgring....
On topic, nothing but good experiences with RSRNürburg--more than a half dozen of them!
On topic, nothing but good experiences with RSRNürburg--more than a half dozen of them!
#127
Rennlist Member
If I wasnt still paying for my car, I would be ALL OVER this idea for next year, but you cant (temporarily) export without clear title ... I hate it when reality messes up my fun! ...
donations greatfully received!
donations greatfully received!
Can't believe I had not thought of that!! I guess I have to pay it off or go annoy the guys on the West Coast next summer...
#128
Rennlist Member
plenty of places around the ring to do this, and Spa is not that far away from there that you could not drive to/from ... lucky bleeder!
#130
Rennlist Member
following circumstances (this is based on my experience doing this with my '04 back in '05 from the US to the UK):
- you must have permanently resided outside the EU for more than 2 years
- you must have owned the car for at least 6 months
- the car must be legally registered in its home country for the duration of the
importation
- you must hold clear title to the vehicle (US customs wont let you export otherwise)
- you may not sell the car in the EU for at least a year
- if you wish to permanently import the car, you will have to obtain individual state compliance, this usually means checking headlights, fog lamps (rear) etc and registering the car permanently in a particular EU state.
I am not sure what the EU residency requirements are for you to be able to import it into the EU, I dont recall there being any but there might be
This would allow you to operate the car in the EU.
Getting insurance can be difficult with the car not being registered in an EU state, I would advise you to contact GEICO who apparently offer auto insurance overseas.
I personally shipped my car over in a 40' container with my belongings which is expensive.
I have met some people from the East Coast at the Ring who transported their cars via RoRo which is significantly cheaper.
As to potential storage locations, I would recommend you contact Manthey as they offer a variety of levels of storage/maintainence with prices to match, but there are others in the locality also.
Hope this helps!
Larry
#131
Rennlist Member
Very great help, Larry. I've thought about bringing the car to London, but I don't really want to do track days here all that much. Maybe I should store the car near FRA or CGN and just fly there an pick it up.
#132
Rennlist Member
Hey guys,
If I just take my car to Europe, do I need the title?
How is that different than driving it into South America or Canada?
I don't want to export it, just want to drive it on Florida plates as the only driver (US citizen) in Europe for less then 6 months and ship it back..
If I just take my car to Europe, do I need the title?
How is that different than driving it into South America or Canada?
I don't want to export it, just want to drive it on Florida plates as the only driver (US citizen) in Europe for less then 6 months and ship it back..
#133
Rennlist Member
You could I think import the car temporarily into the UK and use/store it in Germany ... only reason I suggest doing that is that all the rules and officials implementing them are in English ...
#134
Rennlist Member
Hey guys,
If I just take my car to Europe, do I need the title?
How is that different than driving it into South America or Canada?
I don't want to export it, just want to drive it on Florida plates as the only driver (US citizen) in Europe for less then 6 months and ship it back..
If I just take my car to Europe, do I need the title?
How is that different than driving it into South America or Canada?
I don't want to export it, just want to drive it on Florida plates as the only driver (US citizen) in Europe for less then 6 months and ship it back..
From the perspective of U.S customs, taking a car out of the US "overseas" is export/import, so you have to document as such with them, and they will not let a vehicle be 'exported' without the lienholders agreement, hence either you hold the title or your financer is very understanding...
From the perspective of the EU, the car is being imported, either temporarily or permanently, so they have their owns rules to follow...
A couple of guys from Texas took thier GT-Rs to the ring school in Aug I will check with them to see if they have any further info ... watch this space!
Larry