Larry Cable

Actually both the RSR and Rentracecar.de cars all have proper safety gear installed to the best of my knowledge, they also typically have track rubber
and race pads depending on the car in question. Both companies take safety and proper preparation seriously.

TRAKCAR

That's why it is important to read it and or post, you might just read a negative post without realizing there are several real life positive ones, like Larry above.
I can only speak for rentracecar.de but my experience with them was exactly as advertised. Seemed like a safe and well prepared car. I was well warned and prepared without being babied.

Larry Cable

DITTO ... I have rented from them several times, TOTALLY satisfied.

Also Am-Tiergarten (Sabine's family hotel) are partnering with RSR to offer all-inclusive pkgs...

http://www.am-tiergarten.de/media/am...tenklause1.pdf

TRAKCAR

Damn, that's a deal.

I'm getting hungry and thirsty looking at the pictures.
My German wife knows there are no more trips to Europe, let alone Germany that don't include at least a few laps at the Ring....

I hope to make it back there to join them for a track day in my own car next summer.

Larry, let's put 2 cars in a container!
Have 2 bedroom 2 car garage, must go..

Larry Cable

If I wasnt still paying for my car, I would be ALL OVER this idea for next year, but you cant (temporarily) export without clear title ... I hate it when reality messes up my fun! ...

donations greatfully received!

Phokaioglaukos

I keep thinking about moving my 996 GT3 to the continent--someplace between Spa and the Nürburgring....

On topic, nothing but good experiences with RSRNürburg--more than a half dozen of them!

TRAKCAR

Damn!
Can't believe I had not thought of that!! I guess I have to pay it off or go annoy the guys on the West Coast next summer...

Larry Cable

plenty of places around the ring to do this, and Spa is not that far away from there that you could not drive to/from ... lucky bleeder!

Phokaioglaukos

Larry, how about some suggestions? Should I register the car in the name of a friend who resides in Germany?

Larry Cable

You can temporarily import your car into the EU for up to six months (and I extended it to a year in the UK) and avoid import duty and GST/VAT under the
following circumstances (this is based on my experience doing this with my '04 back in '05 from the US to the UK):

- you must have permanently resided outside the EU for more than 2 years
- you must have owned the car for at least 6 months
- the car must be legally registered in its home country for the duration of the
importation
- you must hold clear title to the vehicle (US customs wont let you export otherwise)
- you may not sell the car in the EU for at least a year
- if you wish to permanently import the car, you will have to obtain individual state compliance, this usually means checking headlights, fog lamps (rear) etc and registering the car permanently in a particular EU state.

I am not sure what the EU residency requirements are for you to be able to import it into the EU, I dont recall there being any but there might be

This would allow you to operate the car in the EU.

Getting insurance can be difficult with the car not being registered in an EU state, I would advise you to contact GEICO who apparently offer auto insurance overseas.

I personally shipped my car over in a 40' container with my belongings which is expensive.

I have met some people from the East Coast at the Ring who transported their cars via RoRo which is significantly cheaper.

As to potential storage locations, I would recommend you contact Manthey as they offer a variety of levels of storage/maintainence with prices to match, but there are others in the locality also.

Hope this helps!

Larry

Phokaioglaukos

Very great help, Larry. I've thought about bringing the car to London, but I don't really want to do track days here all that much. Maybe I should store the car near FRA or CGN and just fly there an pick it up.

TRAKCAR

Hey guys,

If I just take my car to Europe, do I need the title?
How is that different than driving it into South America or Canada?

I don't want to export it, just want to drive it on Florida plates as the only driver (US citizen) in Europe for less then 6 months and ship it back..

Larry Cable

shame as there are some stonking tracks in the UK ...

You could I think import the car temporarily into the UK and use/store it in Germany ... only reason I suggest doing that is that all the rules and officials implementing them are in English ...

Larry Cable

Ok I am not an expert on this, just basing this on my experience, but the rules with regard to the nature of the borders between US, CA, and Mexico differ from those between other sovereign nations.

From the perspective of U.S customs, taking a car out of the US "overseas" is export/import, so you have to document as such with them, and they will not let a vehicle be 'exported' without the lienholders agreement, hence either you hold the title or your financer is very understanding...

From the perspective of the EU, the car is being imported, either temporarily or permanently, so they have their owns rules to follow...

A couple of guys from Texas took thier GT-Rs to the ring school in Aug I will check with them to see if they have any further info ... watch this space!

Larry

TRAKCAR

Makes sense. Thanks!