FGL28

You need to have Katie send Peter Windsor some cookies.

dp35

USF1 appears on Youtube and reveals more:

http://www.youtube.com/user/USF1Team

ltc

It still appears to be a modern day David vs. Goliath.
It just seems to be more of a lower formula team than an F1 team.

I'm assuming they have a European base of operations for the transporters, equipment, hospitality, etc that needs to go to the races.

Benton

You guys seem to be completely oblivious to all of the free worldwide press USF1 is getting by not releasing any information. Assuming USF1 makes it to the grid, all of the negative press will be forgotten; more attention will be on them than the other new teams because they "actually made it." It isn't required that they leak information about their car; I wouldn't want anyone to know what I was doing either if I had some good ideas up my sleeve.

F1 teams have become ridiculous in their excess. With how smart and skilled some people are and with the capabilities of computers, you don't have to have a specialist employee for every part of the car. There are some smart folks within this operation.

Finally, it really disappoints me that almost every post or response about USF1 is negative. What happened to having a little faith in someone? A little support? It seems like pessimism is all you get from people today when you try to do something a little different.

ltc

If they turn out to be the Brawn of 2010, fantastic.
However, no announced drivers (American or not), weeks before FIA crash testing, a couple of months before the first FIA on track testing for 2010, less than a few months to the season opener...they certainly have a formidable task before them.

As to the excess in Formula One, that is specifically why it IS Formula One, and not any of the lower tier series.
If you can't afford to play at the pinnacle of motorsport (or at least it used to be before Max lost his mind...and his underwear), then feel free to play in the lower formulae.
USF1 certainly could have done this, but they chose F1, as have McLaren, Ferrari, etc.

If in fact Andersen and Windsor know a better way of doing it (certainly Toyota never figured it out), then they are geniuses and shall be recognized as such.

mdrums

Interesting how the Americans on this forum do not seem to be pullling for the American team.

multi21

As much as it pains me to say this, but USF1 needs help from it's Charlotte, NC NA$CAR neighbors. Perhaps they will help in come capacity, but they've got to get on the ball.

F1 has become highly Nationalized

Mercedes: Full German team with Schumacher/Rosberg

McLaren: Full British team with Hamilton/Button

Ferrari: Italian sans drivers, but Massa has Italian ancestry

Maybe that is the reason Peter Windsor talked up Kyle Busch for the future knowing they need the NASCAR audience to survive in this new venture.

ltc

There is nothing that NA$CAR can/should contribute to F1...nothing.

brendo

i'm an american and rooting for them, but i'm highly skeptical. i'd love for them to be the best of the new entries but i'm not exactly expecting them to be in the points. hey, i'm hopeful but realistic.

the spot they had on speed at the end of the season was an absolute joke and not inspiring, i must say. they would have served themselves well with a simple "no comment."

multi21

They do have the manufacturing capacity. They do have that super duper wind tunnel in that mountain tunnel that other F1 teams have used. And operations like Penske have open wheel experience as well.

I wouldn't be so closed minded about this.

mdrums

Might be but like wise there is nothing F1 could contribute to NASCAR either. My thoughts are that both series are at the top of their game. However F1 could learn a lot from NASCAR in terms of marketing and fan involvement.

Benton

I don't agree with this. Formula 1 has only become ridiculous in its expenses and employment in the past 10 or so years. It exemplifies the excess of the 90's and 2000's. Need to do it better? Hire more people and spend more money.

It doesn't have to be done that way, and that is why, with the technology of today and some hard work, it can be done cheaper with less excess. Will USF1 do it? Who knows...

This is either bigotry or ignorance--or maybe both. Obviously most of the technology doesn't transfer, but there are some damn smart people in the U.S. working with NASCAR (and some that aren't so smart), and they are implementing technology that parallels the technology in F1.

You don't have to be Italian or German to know how to build a great race car. Have some faith, dude.

Benton

YES!

ltc

Penske brought his years of experience (mainly meticulous preparation, traning and maintenance) from USAC/CART/ALMS into his NA$CAR team...I don't think NA$CAR taught him anything, at least from a technical perspective.

There is little to nothing that "traditional" NA$CAR (pushrod V8, carbs, steel wheels, etc) can contribute to F1.
There is little to no complex carbon fibre manufacturing in NA$CAR, at least not compared to F1 (load bearing transmission/engine housings, etc).

Put this way...NA$CAR vs. F1...sort of like Vince McMahon wrestling vs Collegiate/Olympic wrestling.
At least that's the way I've always viewed it. NA$CAR...motorsports for the lowest common denominator.

ltc

Such as...


At least in Australian V8 Supercars, all of the body panels are 100% original (granted over a purpose built tube frame), but at least stock.

Name one thing in a NA$CAR Car of Tomorrow that is Stock...


It's not bigotry, perhaps ignorance, but that is subjective.