No, for real... USF1 Monocoque
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The thought had crossed my mind months ago that there may be shady dealings, but I kept my mouth shut because Peter Windsor is such a high profile figure in F1 circles and I wanted USF1 to get off the ground.
I hope these reports are not true, but once it gets to this point, it looks really bad.
I hope these reports are not true, but once it gets to this point, it looks really bad.
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You chose to try and play in F1...if you can't afford it or compete, there are plenty of other series/formulae that would welcome your team.
It's F1...no one forced them to jump into the deep end of the pool.
Failure is a natural response in certain situations.
It was a cute gimmick when introduced...unfortunately it appears to be a short lived gimmick (a US F1 team with US drivers, etc...)
In the end, no one will really care, there will still be sufficient teams on the grid to make it interesting.
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So, are Stefan and Bernie joined at the hip? I know he likes deep pockets, so that his can get even deeper. By all the recent comments USF1 is not looking good. Too bad.
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I look at it differently....
You chose to try and play in F1...if you can't afford it or compete, there are plenty of other series/formulae that would welcome your team.
It's F1...no one forced them to jump into the deep end of the pool.
Failure is a natural response in certain situations.
It was a cute gimmick when introduced...unfortunately it appears to be a short lived gimmick (a US F1 team with US drivers, etc...)
In the end, no one will really care, there will still be sufficient teams on the grid to make it interesting.
You chose to try and play in F1...if you can't afford it or compete, there are plenty of other series/formulae that would welcome your team.
It's F1...no one forced them to jump into the deep end of the pool.
Failure is a natural response in certain situations.
It was a cute gimmick when introduced...unfortunately it appears to be a short lived gimmick (a US F1 team with US drivers, etc...)
In the end, no one will really care, there will still be sufficient teams on the grid to make it interesting.
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Money from a govenment, such as Serbia in this instance, is more reliable than private investors.
I'm sure Bernie's angle is fleecing more $$ out of them for some street race in the future that no one else in the world wants to see.
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While I don't disagree, my point is more that it would be nice for the top brass (***?) in F1 to offer some support for new teams. From Day 1, he has said nothing but negative comments about USF1 and Campos. and in the end, he couldn't care less if any teams to well, all he cares about is who can bring money to the table. If USF1 had really deep pockets, he would be singing thier praises, and helping them out, I'm sure of it.
It's in his best interest, as commercial rights holder, to put forth the teams best qualified to compete in his events.
If it was a problem, then I'm sure the governing body (FIA) would strip him of his commercial rights.
Again, survival of the fittest...there are plenty of other series available for those teams to compete in.
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I think part of the problem is the lack of stability in the rules. These new teams entered into the sport when they were being told there were going to be budget caps, then that all changed. Expecting a brand new team to design, build, and test a competitive car in a year is unrealistic, the F1 bosses and teams should both know better. If they really want new teams to have a fighting chance the rules package should be developed 3 years in advance, giving enough time to develop and test a car. Bernie should keep his mouth shut too, bad mouthing teams only hurts the sport and scares away sponsors.
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I think part of the problem is the lack of stability in the rules. These new teams entered into the sport when they were being told there were going to be budget caps, then that all changed. Expecting a brand new team to design, build, and test a competitive car in a year is unrealistic, the F1 bosses and teams should both know better. If they really want new teams to have a fighting chance the rules package should be developed 3 years in advance, giving enough time to develop and test a car. Bernie should keep his mouth shut too, bad mouthing teams only hurts the sport and scares away sponsors.
The problem is no one except Stehen GP did it and they're ready to roll if someone bows out.
The fact that USF1 said that they are doing something revolutionary that no one else is doing and we come to find out their suspension pieces are made of steel instead of carbon is not revolutionary. Missing payroll and then paying 50 cents on the dollar to employees is pretty much telling everyone you're done before even getting started.
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