Why is there no club race at Mt. Tremblant?
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The track is awesome, it has an incredible resort nearby, and has one of the scariest turns of any track in North America.
Do we not have a club race there because of the track management, or is it a lack of effort from our side?
Do we not have a club race there because of the track management, or is it a lack of effort from our side?
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Lack of effort is my guess. You and I know that NNJR has little interest in any Club Race, for example.
I'd go there in a heartbeat, the whole place has recently been upgraded, maybe the Canadians don't want us to know about it.
I'd go there in a heartbeat, the whole place has recently been upgraded, maybe the Canadians don't want us to know about it.
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I did the club race there back in 1999 when it was held in conjunction with the Parade. If I recall, the asphalt was still orginal back to the F1 days, something the locals were proud of. They still had the old control tower, which was only usable on the first floor because of the condition it was in. I remember having to learn it in the pouring down rain during the DE.
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May be noise related among other things. I know I ran my muffler at several DE's there to stay out of trouble. It is easy for me to put a muffler on, maybe not so for most racers.
I would love to race there.
I would love to race there.
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Is this something that could be done by the Zone 1 group if somebody volunteered to handle the logistics? (I'm assuming that Pete doesn't have the appetite to manage 2 club races)
My family (and extended family) keeps asking if I'll race there as they absolutely loved the resort when we went for a DE. It's an easy sell for the family to make it a week long vacation.
My family (and extended family) keeps asking if I'll race there as they absolutely loved the resort when we went for a DE. It's an easy sell for the family to make it a week long vacation.
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When I last lived in Canada I remember that Rennsport region (Montreal and Quebec area) did several DEs there every year and I joined NER for one event in May. I think there was also another DE during the Tremblant Jazz weekend although I never got to it. The events would fill quickly and were more expensive than your average DE due to higher track rentals. Since I suspect that every summer weekend is booked the most practical way to hold a club race would be for one of the regions who has an existing summer weekend to convert that to a club race and get track ownership and PCA approval. That could mean that they might trade a money making DE event for a money losing club race. Otherwise, I suspect a region could try to convince the owner to bump another booking and give PCA a race. In either event, a region would have to step up and be on the hook for the expenses. I'm not aware of issues with track management against races, other than noise restrictions, because there are some vintage races held there. The owner had several Ferrari's at the track for his enjoyment and that of his guests but I never heard he was anti-Porsche, although I did hear that they would not rent to anyone and were looking for more prestigious events. This may be very outdated info as it's been four years since I've been up that way.
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As a Montrealer... and big fan of Mont Tremblant, I would love for a Zone 1 to host a club race up there (Rennsport won't do it, there are simply not enough racers up there). I think what would be amazing is a big time event with a real enduro of 6 hours or more... Also note that there are very few weekends were dB levels are free. The owner of the track, Strohl (who is the man behind the success Tommy Hilfiger enjoyed in the 90s), will make you pay for armco...
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For example, if there was a race at Mt. Tremblant once every three years, I think they could probably charge around $500 for the sprint races and another $200-$300 for the enduro.
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From the national committee's perspective, we'd love to have a PCA club race at Mt. Tremblant. However, for that to happen, a PCA region or zone must step up and offer to host the event. The only time the national committee has become involved in the negotiations with the track, seeking to convince them to let us hold a club race there, was with Daytona International Speedway. The folks at Daytona really only wanted to work with the national committee and in fact the original negotiation was between their VP and PCA's national president. However, even with Daytona we had two regions run the race.
From what I've read and heard, Mt. Tremblant is a great track. If someone in a region in that general area is interested in moving this along, please contact me at clubracingchair@pca.org.
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From what I've read and heard, Mt. Tremblant is a great track. If someone in a region in that general area is interested in moving this along, please contact me at clubracingchair@pca.org.
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As a Montrealer... and big fan of Mont Tremblant, I would love for a Zone 1 to host a club race up there (Rennsport won't do it, there are simply not enough racers up there). I think what would be amazing is a big time event with a real enduro of 6 hours or more... Also note that there are very few weekends were dB levels are free. The owner of the track, Strohl (who is the man behind the success Tommy Hilfiger enjoyed in the 90s), will make you pay for armco...
Of course, if my rule change suggestion on tag-team enduros gets approved, so that only half the cars are on the track at any given time, then a 6 hour enduro suddenly becomes possible.
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In the Great White North, where track demand is high given the short good weather season, you either keep the same weekend every year or risk losing it altogether. At least that is the case at Mosport, every weekend is booked and usually the same groups show up same weekend every year. Give up that weekend and you may never see it again. I presume a similar situation exists at LCMT since their season is even shorter. Holding a race every two or three years is likely only an option if you are holding DEs on the off years so you can keep the weekend. This would require a region with an existing DE weekend to run with it.
I fully agree with Brian P that it doesn't have to be a money losing proposition but it is a more expensive proposition so if it's not well executed, you must be at least prepared for the chance you may lose money. Since there are not too many local racers in the area, the race will have to draw from the NE and beyond. Checking the PCA calendar and there are not many summer weekends that aren't close to other big races (Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen, Mosport, VIR, Road America). It would need some committed members from either Zone 1 or one of the nearby regions to pull it off. It would be nice to see.
I fully agree with Brian P that it doesn't have to be a money losing proposition but it is a more expensive proposition so if it's not well executed, you must be at least prepared for the chance you may lose money. Since there are not too many local racers in the area, the race will have to draw from the NE and beyond. Checking the PCA calendar and there are not many summer weekends that aren't close to other big races (Mid-Ohio, Watkins Glen, Mosport, VIR, Road America). It would need some committed members from either Zone 1 or one of the nearby regions to pull it off. It would be nice to see.