I FINALLY made it to TWS [plus video]
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VR and George- you guys are killing me. This is better than Seinfeld reruns... VR- See you at Harris Hill in a few days- I'd lik to follow you around to learn the track. George- I'll be at TWS in two weeks also. I'll keep and eye on Dave for you...
-Keith
-Keith
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Tom,
Great job! A fun track, huh? Now you're hooked!
I'll just tell you where I drive differently, may or may not be better...
T2 - I start wider and turn in a little later. I find that in my car, if I take the apex a little later, I can track out a little more straight, and stay longer on the gas. Then I brake a tad later, and much harder.
T6 - left some track out there on your right, before turn-in. Remember, this is the set up for the 2nd longest straight.
T7 - brake less, or just lift. You went to 100% throttle after the apex, but I'm usually there before the apex. The camber of the track is working in your favor at the apex, and you have more grip than you think. Plus you're waiting until you're going uphill before attempting to accelerate. Also, the hill will give back plenty of time to slow down before the next turn.
T8 - This is where I have the most problem with looking ahead. You have to really keep eyes left, anticipating T9 to finally become visible in order to get hit T8 - T9 well. At least in my car, besides T2 - T3, this sequence is where I seem to gain the most on comparable cars/drivers when I hit it right, but it begins with looking left as you come up the hill. Very easy to follow the guy in front of you here because you can't see it ahead of time as well.
You went wide in the carousel, and as a result, you decreased your turn radius on the next - and more important - turn.
Love the foot cam! Where did you mount the camera?
Great job! A fun track, huh? Now you're hooked!
I'll just tell you where I drive differently, may or may not be better...
T2 - I start wider and turn in a little later. I find that in my car, if I take the apex a little later, I can track out a little more straight, and stay longer on the gas. Then I brake a tad later, and much harder.
T6 - left some track out there on your right, before turn-in. Remember, this is the set up for the 2nd longest straight.
T7 - brake less, or just lift. You went to 100% throttle after the apex, but I'm usually there before the apex. The camber of the track is working in your favor at the apex, and you have more grip than you think. Plus you're waiting until you're going uphill before attempting to accelerate. Also, the hill will give back plenty of time to slow down before the next turn.
T8 - This is where I have the most problem with looking ahead. You have to really keep eyes left, anticipating T9 to finally become visible in order to get hit T8 - T9 well. At least in my car, besides T2 - T3, this sequence is where I seem to gain the most on comparable cars/drivers when I hit it right, but it begins with looking left as you come up the hill. Very easy to follow the guy in front of you here because you can't see it ahead of time as well.
You went wide in the carousel, and as a result, you decreased your turn radius on the next - and more important - turn.
Love the foot cam! Where did you mount the camera?
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LOL...Keith, I will not be bringing my car to HHR. However, please allow me to ride with you on Friday afternoon & I can show you where I think your car would do well. Deal?
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With the pavement tidied up, it'll be pretty tempting to go straight through T1 and fly around the oval a time or two!!
You're right, a 430 Stradale is technically a "Challenge Stradale".
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I remember back in the days our target was to break the two minute barrier. You got close at your first attempt. You can really carry a lot more speed through most of those turns but it takes a little getting use to... I noticed you tapped the brake in a couple of areas that I don't.
It is a fun track, isn't it? That's where I did my first DE.
It is a fun track, isn't it? That's where I did my first DE.
It's a sweet track, I do admit. Makes me want to go back again!
Thanks for the pointers. I have a load of video and data taking different lines that I'm going to analyze to see where I can find the most time. Add in a little Rfactor, better temperatures, and I'm hoping to break the 2:00 barrier.
As for the mount, I use a $3.00 electrical grounding clamp mounted to the seat pull up bar. Ultra cheap solution. Below is a pic, and here is a link to the whole setup (with a video link as well). Camera is mounted in the middle of the seat and does not interfere with driving at all. I kinda like it
-td
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As for the mount, I use a $3.00 electrical grounding clamp mounted to the seat pull up bar. Ultra cheap solution. Below is a pic, and here is a link to the whole setup (with a video link as well). Camera is mounted in the middle of the seat and does not interfere with driving at all. I kinda like it
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TWS is a blast! I've been driving there for a year and I still have a ton to learn, but I always have fun.
BTW, how did you time-synch the two videos?
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One more tip - as you near the end of the straight, while still up on the banking, look hard left and you will see the next 4 turns from a great vantage point. A good way to visualize your path thru the T1 - T3 sequence right before turn-in.
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Sweet. I'll keep that in mind. Not sure if my hans will let me look hard left, lol
BTW, do you (or anyone driving a 996) have Performance box data files that I could look at? I'd like to get some comparison lap/sector times. If you some data, let me know and I'll pm my email addy.
-td
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Here's the video overlay from one of the CW laps.... http://www.vimeo.com/1200937 Let me know if you want the data files....
I'll get some CCW data in two weeks.
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Yes, but unfortunately, they are all from a CW DE.
Here's the video overlay from one of the CW laps.... http://www.vimeo.com/1200937 Let me know if you want the data files....
I'll get some CCW data in two weeks.
Here's the video overlay from one of the CW laps.... http://www.vimeo.com/1200937 Let me know if you want the data files....
I'll get some CCW data in two weeks.
I may try to get on the waiting list now that I've got a taste of TWS But gotta clear it with the wife first.
-td