2009 F1 Season , Testing , News and Updates
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Is Renault R29's new nose illegal?
Just two weeks after the initial tests, Renault has already introduced a modified nose cone, building upon the foundations that were laid out at the launch. The tip of the nose is now a little more rounded to reduce drag.
The underside however now sports 'side skirts' all along the sides of the nose, in between the front wheels and extending to the splitter. The new design will help even more to benefit from the low pressure area underneath the nose.
Although interesting, Renault is clearly experimenting different solutions, and this one is unlikely to make it to Melbourne, simply because it is not valid in the current rules. Article 3.11.2 states: With the exception of brake cooling air ducts, in side view, there must be no bodywork in the area formed by two vertical lines, one 325mm behind the front wheel centre line, one 450mm ahead of the front wheel centre line, one diagonal line intersecting the vertical lines at 100mm and 200mm above the reference plane respectively, and one horizontal line on the reference plane.
The underside however now sports 'side skirts' all along the sides of the nose, in between the front wheels and extending to the splitter. The new design will help even more to benefit from the low pressure area underneath the nose.
Although interesting, Renault is clearly experimenting different solutions, and this one is unlikely to make it to Melbourne, simply because it is not valid in the current rules. Article 3.11.2 states: With the exception of brake cooling air ducts, in side view, there must be no bodywork in the area formed by two vertical lines, one 325mm behind the front wheel centre line, one 450mm ahead of the front wheel centre line, one diagonal line intersecting the vertical lines at 100mm and 200mm above the reference plane respectively, and one horizontal line on the reference plane.
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Although interesting, Renault is clearly experimenting different solutions, and this one is unlikely to make it to Melbourne, simply because it is not valid in the current rules. Article 3.11.2 states: With the exception of brake cooling air ducts, in side view, there must be no bodywork in the area formed by two vertical lines, one 325mm behind the front wheel centre line, one 450mm ahead of the front wheel centre line, one diagonal line intersecting the vertical lines at 100mm and 200mm above the reference plane respectively, and one horizontal line on the reference plane.
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Glock remains on top at dry Jerez track
F1 Test, Jerez, Circuit Permanente de Jerezes
Just like yesterday, Toyota Racing F1 Team driver Timo Glock was the fastest man at Jerez de la Frontera. The German was the only one to clock a time under 1:20. At a dry track, Glock was followed by Ferrari's Felipe Massa and Renault's Fernando Alonso.
Results
1. T. Glock.. Toyota... TF109... 1:19.814.. 141
2. F. Massa.. Ferrari.. .F60. 1:20.238.. +0.424... 134
3. F. Alonso.. Renault... R29.. 1:20.296... +0.482 ..152
4. H. Kovalainen.. McLaren.. MP4-24.. 1:20.535.. +0.721.. 85
5. A. Sutil.. Force India... VJM-02... 1:20.621.. +0.807.. 63
6. M. Webber.. Red Bull Racing.. RB5. 1:21.021.. +1.207.. 98
7. R. Kubica.. BMW Sauber.. F1.09.. 1:21.069.. +1.255.. 98
8. N. Rosberg ..Williams FW31.. 1:21.412.. +1.598 ..125
Just like yesterday, Toyota Racing F1 Team driver Timo Glock was the fastest man at Jerez de la Frontera. The German was the only one to clock a time under 1:20. At a dry track, Glock was followed by Ferrari's Felipe Massa and Renault's Fernando Alonso.
Results
1. T. Glock.. Toyota... TF109... 1:19.814.. 141
2. F. Massa.. Ferrari.. .F60. 1:20.238.. +0.424... 134
3. F. Alonso.. Renault... R29.. 1:20.296... +0.482 ..152
4. H. Kovalainen.. McLaren.. MP4-24.. 1:20.535.. +0.721.. 85
5. A. Sutil.. Force India... VJM-02... 1:20.621.. +0.807.. 63
6. M. Webber.. Red Bull Racing.. RB5. 1:21.021.. +1.207.. 98
7. R. Kubica.. BMW Sauber.. F1.09.. 1:21.069.. +1.255.. 98
8. N. Rosberg ..Williams FW31.. 1:21.412.. +1.598 ..125
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Of course you would, he pulled over for Hamilton to gift him the championship. Reminds me of the time when Favre laid down for Michael Strahan to gift him the sack championship.
Vettel is a future superstar and champion in the waiting. Glock is a journeyman at best and a year or two from endurance racing at worse.
Vettel put the wood to Hamilton straight up last year in Brazil when Hamilton needed to keep Vettel behind him for the championship. Vettel also won at Monza in a Toro Rosso, aka Minardi. Put Vettel in a top 3 car and he beats everyone in the #1 or #2 car.
Vettel needs a top 3 car to win it all.
Vettel is a future superstar and champion in the waiting. Glock is a journeyman at best and a year or two from endurance racing at worse.
Vettel put the wood to Hamilton straight up last year in Brazil when Hamilton needed to keep Vettel behind him for the championship. Vettel also won at Monza in a Toro Rosso, aka Minardi. Put Vettel in a top 3 car and he beats everyone in the #1 or #2 car.
Vettel needs a top 3 car to win it all.
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Gotcha. It was the last "horizontal line" line that was throwing me off. From the one shot I do not see why the Renault's nose would be illegal. Does it come back too far and get into the front part of the no fly zone?
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It is my assumption that the horizontal line on the 'reference plane' is the ground line. I agree that the forward cockpit appears not to fly into the no fly zone. However, my sketch is just an interpretation of the rules and not the rules.
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"The underside however now sports 'side skirts' all along the sides of the nose, in between the front wheels and extending to the splitter. The new design will help even more to benefit from the low pressure area underneath the nose."
You cannot have this kind of aero continuity ...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgzovmqsgQ
Last edited by A.Wayne; 03-04-2009 at 02:03 AM.
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