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Old 10-21-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
Team orders are not allowed, except for Ferrari I guess. As long as you fake it?

I'm glad you changed your avatar, it scared me when I looked at it...
Old 10-21-2007, 04:51 PM
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Like Ferrari is the only team to use "team" orders...
Old 10-21-2007, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Haa, Haa, now Lewis lost the WDC 2 weekends in a row , HE IS STILL A ROOKIE , the little engine that could , but in the end didn't , I'm off to drink the spoils with the Finns , FA haters go to bed .......Lewis has
You may hate Schumy, but the last race of hamilton, even if plagued with bad luck and a big mistake, had very little in common with Schumacher's swan song at interlagos last year. He barely managed to take back positions thanks to the DNFs in front of him. Started 2nd, after first corner was eight, and finished seventh.

no one even posted this

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts

1 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 71 Winner 3 10
2 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 71 +1.4 secs 1 8
3 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 71 +57.0 secs 4 6
4 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 71 +62.8 secs 10 5
5 10 Robert Kubica BMW 71 +70.9 secs 7 4
6 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 71 +71.3 secs 6 3
7 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 70 +1 Lap 2 2
8 12 Jarno Trulli Toyota 70 +1 Lap 8 1
9 14 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 70 +1 Lap 9
10 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 70 +1 Lap 19
11 11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 70 +1 Lap 15
12 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 69 +2 Laps 18
13 18 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 69 +2 Laps 14
14 23 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 68 +3 Laps 20
Ret 20 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 43 +28 Laps 22
Ret 8 Rubens Barrichello Honda 40 +31 Laps 11
Ret 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 35 +36 Laps 17
Ret 19 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 34 +37 Laps 13
Ret 7 Jenson Button Honda 20 +51 Laps 16
Ret 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 14 +57 Laps 5
Ret 21 Sakon Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 2 +69 Laps 21
Ret 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 2 +69 Laps 12
Old 10-21-2007, 06:11 PM
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Oh, oh..... Looks like Hamilton could still be 2007 WDC

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19809.html

Hold your horsepower!
As darkness was falling in Brazil there was a rush of excitement as it became clear that the FIA Stewards have been asked to look into allegations that there are problems with the fuel temperatures of the BMW Saubers and the Williams. If two of the cars are excluded from the race, Lewis Hamilton would be the World Champion. We will give you more as it becomes available...
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Originally Posted by Trucho-951
Oh, oh..... Looks like Hamilton could still be 2007 WDC

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19809.html

Hold your horsepower!
As darkness was falling in Brazil there was a rush of excitement as it became clear that the FIA Stewards have been asked to look into allegations that there are problems with the fuel temperatures of the BMW Saubers and the Williams. If two of the cars are excluded from the race, Lewis Hamilton would be the World Champion. We will give you more as it becomes available...
That would be major crapola.

Go Kimi go!
Old 10-21-2007, 06:23 PM
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547

Also from Autosport. My goodness, if those cars are disqualified, this would be the perfect end to a season filled with FIA intervention.

I'm gonna guess that any penalty would be a fine rather than disqualification. If these cars are DQ'd, the championship could be decided many months later with all of the appeals and such that will most certainly be filed.
Old 10-21-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fuenfer
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547

Also from Autosport. My goodness, if those cars are disqualified, this would be the perfect end to a season filled with FIA intervention.

I'm gonna guess that any penalty would be a fine rather than disqualification. If these cars are DQ'd, the championship could be decided many months later with all of the appeals and such that will most certainly be filed.
It depends... they may well be disqualified, do not underestimate the power of Bernie who did want Hamilton to win, did not like Raikkonen much, and hated Alonso.

I'm actually not surprised... Hamilton was the designated champion, he wasn't supposed to lose.


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Originally Posted by Nano
I'm actually not surprised... Hamilton was the designated champion, he wasn't supposed to lose.
This may be the understatement of the year. Well said!
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Originally Posted by Nano
It depends... they may well be disqualified, do not underestimate the power of Bernie who did want Hamilton to win, did not like Raikkonen much, and hated Alonso.

I'm actually not surprised... Hamilton was the designated champion, he wasn't supposed to lose.

If they do get disqualified, I'd say Ferrari should protest and have Hami penilzed 5 spots for impeding Kimi's qualifying.
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Well anyway, props to Ferrari, they did their Job, their race was flawless. Even the Times admits they did spectacular work.

"The race was beautifully engineered by Ferrari, superbly driven by both Felipe Massa and Raikkonen. As Massa pulled in for the second pit stop, the Finn had a clear road ahead of him to make up three seconds before his own pitstop. The calculations were perfect, Raikkonen exiting the pitlane as his teammate headed down the backstraight, cementing his lead to three seconds and relegating both Alonso and Hamilton to also rans in the title race."

"Hard though he charged, Hamilton had to content himself with an astonishing debut season. His mistake in China cost him the title not his epic drive here. If he wins the title next year, he will still be the youngest world champion in history."
Old 10-21-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Raikkonen Title Confirmed!

This is the only report I have seen so far but lets hope its true! Go KIMI!

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/211020...confirmed.html
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Default Raikkonen wins race and title in Brazil

By Matt Beer Sunday, October 21st 2007, 17:33 GMT

Kimi Raikkonen snatched the 2007 world championship title from the McLaren drivers' grasp by winning the Brazilian Grand Prix ahead of his Ferrari teammate Felipe Massa.

Pre-race points leader Lewis Hamilton had a disastrous afternoon - dropping from second on the grid to fourth by the first corner, then going off the road further around the lap. He then lost 40 seconds when his McLaren briefly cut out, and could only recover to seventh.

Fernando Alonso finished a distant third, having had no answer for the Ferraris' pace.

Raikkonen swept ahead of Hamilton off the line at the start of the race, and as the Briton lost momentum his McLaren teammate Alonso was able to slip through on the inside at the Senna S.

Hamilton tried to retaliate into the Descida do Lago corner, only to lock a brake and run wide onto the run-off area, falling to eighth place.

Eight laps later Hamilton's hopes were dealt an even worse blow when his McLaren suddenly slowed. It got back up to speed further around the circuit, but by that time he had fallen right down to 18th position.

At the front, the Ferraris pulled away from Alonso with ease. Massa appeared to have the edge over Raikkonen, and led by as much as three seconds.

But in the middle of the race Raikkonen crept closer to his teammate, and after running three laps longer in the second pit sequence the Finn was able to jump ahead of Massa and into the first position he required.

Hamilton mounted a gallant recovery drive, and tried the strategic gamble of switching to a three-stop strategy with a very short stint on the unpopular supersoft tyres. Although he made rapid progress through the midfield cars, he needed to finish fifth with Raikkonen on course to win the race, and lacked the speed to catch the top six runners.

Alonso was never in contention for victory, lapping up to a second slower than the two Ferraris. He briefly fell to fourth when passed by charging three-stopper Robert Kubica, but regained the final podium spot when the BMW pitted for the final time. It was to no avail, however, as Raikkonen's win was sufficient to overturn Alonso's three-point advantage.

Raikkonen cemented his victory by setting a new fastest lap with just five laps remaining. He eased away from Massa to clinch his sixth win of 2007 and his first world title in seven years of trying.

Nico Rosberg charged to fourth for Williams, despite almost tangling with Nick Heidfeld while battling the BMW for the place with 11 laps to go. Both ran extremely wide and let Heidfeld's teammate Kubica through, but Rosberg was able to catch the Pole again and grab fourth on the penultimate lap.

The lapped Hamilton moved up to seventh when Jarno Trulli (Toyota) made a late final stop and fell to eighth, but the result meant that the Briton ended up second in the championship that he had led for the last five months.

Rosberg's fourth place secured Williams' fourth place in the constructors' championship as neither Red Bull scored. Mark Webber retired from fifth early on, while David Coulthard could only manage ninth.

Williams' newcomer Kazuki Nakajima finished 10th on his Formula One debut, but his race was marred when he slid into his pit crew at his first stop, leaving two mechanics with minor injuries.

Last year's champions Renault had a disastrous season finale. Both Giancarlo Fisichella and Heikki Kovalainen suffered damage in the opening laps - Fisichella being violently collected by Spyker's Sakon Yamamoto after running across the grass at the Senna S.

Kovalainen continued with a new wing after his first corner incident, but later had a heavy crash at Turn 3.

PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS

The Brazilian Grand Prix
Interlagos, Sao Paulo, Brazil;
71 laps; 305.909km;
Weather: Dry and sunny.

Classified:

Pos Driver Team Time
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1h28:15.270
2. Massa Ferrari (B) + 1.493
3. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 57.019
4. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) + 1:02.848
5. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) + 1:10.957
6. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) + 1:11.317
7. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) + 1 Lap
8. Trulli Toyota (B) + 1 Lap
9. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) + 1 Lap
10. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) + 1 Lap
11. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) + 1 Lap
12. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) + 2 Laps
13. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) + 2 Laps
14. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) + 3 Laps

Fastest lap: Raikkonen, 1:12.445

Not classified/retirements:

Driver Team On lap
Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 43
Barrichello Honda (B) 40
Kovalainen Renault (B) 35
Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 34
Button Honda (B) 20
Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 14
Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 2
Fisichella Renault (B) 2


World Championship standings, round 17:

Drivers: Constructors:
1. Raikkonen 110 1. Ferrari 204
2. Hamilton 109 2. BMW Sauber 101
3. Alonso 109 3. Renault 51
4. Massa 94 4. Williams-Toyota 33
5. Heidfeld 61 5. Red Bull-Renault 24
6. Kubica 39 6. Toyota 13
7. Kovalainen 30 7. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 8
8. Fisichella 21 8. Honda 6
9. Rosberg 20 9. Super Aguri-Honda 4
10. Coulthard 14 10. Spyker-Ferrari 1
11. Wurz 13 11. McLaren-Mercedes -
12. Webber 10
13. Trulli 8
14. Vettel 6
15. Button 6
16. R.Schumacher 5
17. Sato 4
18. Liuzzi 3
19. Sutil 1
Old 10-21-2007, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by potent951turbo86
This is the only report I have seen so far but lets hope its true! Go KIMI!

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/211020...confirmed.html
LOL, can you imagine telling the Finn Kimi is no longer the WDC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ne/7055644.stm
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Point average per race up to hungary (first 11 races)

Lewis = 7.27 pts per race
Fernando = 6.64 pts per race
Kimi = 5.45 pts per race (DNF twice)
Felipe = 5.36 pts per race (DSQ once)

Point average per race post hungary (last 6 races)

Kimi = 8.33 pts per race
Fernando = 6 pts per race (DNF once)
Felipe = 5.83 pts per race (DNF once)
Lewis = 4.83 pts per race (DNF once)


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