Rolex 24 Hours Daytona
#211
The 992 was 2+ seconds slower this year than the 991 last year, with a bigger engine and higher unrestricted output than the previous car.
Well slower on the banking than the competition this year; even the commentators had to acknowledge that the BoP was imbalanced.
Seems like IMSA deserves a lot of criticism from Porsche and their GTD customer teams.
I'd guess more than a few mfr's and teams will have some complaints. Ferrari and BMW were only slightly more competitive than the P-cars.
Well slower on the banking than the competition this year; even the commentators had to acknowledge that the BoP was imbalanced.
Seems like IMSA deserves a lot of criticism from Porsche and their GTD customer teams.
I'd guess more than a few mfr's and teams will have some complaints. Ferrari and BMW were only slightly more competitive than the P-cars.
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FredC (01-30-2023)
#213
I went to the race and really wanted to like it, but was left thinking IMSA’s good years are behind it. The cars are ugly (why the huge billboard on the back?), the manufacturers aren’t even making their own cars (the Porsche is really a “multimatic”?) and the whole balance of power thing is dumb. Whoever brings the best car shouldn’t be held back. Socialism doesn’t work.
It’s clear there is some favoritism to GM (why the heck would they brand it Cadillac that’s the most uncool and unsporty brand they have?). Porsche being held back killed it for me. I was going to head back this morning for the ending but decided not to bother.
It’s clear there is some favoritism to GM (why the heck would they brand it Cadillac that’s the most uncool and unsporty brand they have?). Porsche being held back killed it for me. I was going to head back this morning for the ending but decided not to bother.
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#215
The 992 was 2+ seconds slower this year than the 991 last year, with a bigger engine and higher unrestricted output than the previous car.
Well slower on the banking than the competition this year; even the commentators had to acknowledge that the BoP was imbalanced.
Seems like IMSA deserves a lot of criticism from Porsche and their GTD customer teams.
I'd guess more than a few mfr's and teams will have some complaints. Ferrari and BMW were only slightly more competitive than the P-cars.
Well slower on the banking than the competition this year; even the commentators had to acknowledge that the BoP was imbalanced.
Seems like IMSA deserves a lot of criticism from Porsche and their GTD customer teams.
I'd guess more than a few mfr's and teams will have some complaints. Ferrari and BMW were only slightly more competitive than the P-cars.
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#218
I don't know much but BoP seems stupid at this level of racing. But kudos to Acura for winning with a bespoke engine. And help me get this straight - there are only 2 or 3 different chassis in GTP? But the bodywork IS unique between teams. I am also a bit sour I didn't have a means to watch it live unless I shelled out some money for Peacock. In Europe it was free to watch online as I understand it. Was hoping for rain as things progressed and I got little updates online.
Last edited by PiB993; 01-29-2023 at 10:26 PM.
#219
I went to the race and really wanted to like it, but was left thinking IMSA’s good years are behind it. The cars are ugly (why the huge billboard on the back?), the manufacturers aren’t even making their own cars (the Porsche is really a “multimatic”?) and the whole balance of power thing is dumb. Whoever brings the best car shouldn’t be held back. Socialism doesn’t work.
It’s clear there is some favoritism to GM (why the heck would they brand it Cadillac that’s the most uncool and unsporty brand they have?). Porsche being held back killed it for me. I was going to head back this morning for the ending but decided not to bother.
It’s clear there is some favoritism to GM (why the heck would they brand it Cadillac that’s the most uncool and unsporty brand they have?). Porsche being held back killed it for me. I was going to head back this morning for the ending but decided not to bother.
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Maxant13 (01-30-2023)
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#221
I don't know much but BoP seems stupid at this level of racing. But kudos to Acura for winning with a bespoke engine. And help me get this straight - there are only 2 or 3 different chassis in GTP? But the bodywork IS unique between teams. I am also a bit sour I didn't have a means to watch it live unless I shelled out some money for Peacock. In Europe it was free to watch online as I understand it. Was hoping for rain as things progressed and I got little updates online.
GTP has four chassis manufacturers:
Dallara: Cadillac and BMW
Oreca: Acura
Ligier: Lambo in 2024
Multimatic: Porsche
I am not really sure why some people are upset about the role Multimatic plays here.. even in GT3 they prepped the Ford GT that had a very good run a few years back.
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PiB993 (01-30-2023)
#222
If all you cared about was Porsche, yeah the race sucked (though whoever is the strategist for Pfaff needs a raise)
if your a fan of actual racing, it was a very good race.
if your a fan of actual racing, it was a very good race.
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#223
I'm always glad to tune into watch Daytona, but this year I've got two gripes.
1) The BOP in GTD was pretty terrible. I'm not sure that I understand how there can be this big of a discrepancy in lap times, especially after testing and qualifying. I'd pay to be a fly on the wall in those meetings, and if anyone knows how they work, I'd love to hear details. I'm sure there are politics involved, but it almost seems like those who set the rules are okay with potentially removing a type of car from a major race just to make sure that they aren't sandbagging, and then letting it catch up over the next couple shorter and less important races.
2) I'm pretty disappointed by the factory's performance...again. Porsche has given away the last two WEC GT championships, and they haven't been as competitive as they have in the past. Yes, they are facing some stiff competition, but I would argue the 919, a car far more complex and one that was being entered by the factory for the first time in a long time, had a better start to its career. If you think they'll make up for this at Le Mans, I've got my eye on that 499P out of Maranello.
I will remain a fan, but I expect more. Onward and upward!
1) The BOP in GTD was pretty terrible. I'm not sure that I understand how there can be this big of a discrepancy in lap times, especially after testing and qualifying. I'd pay to be a fly on the wall in those meetings, and if anyone knows how they work, I'd love to hear details. I'm sure there are politics involved, but it almost seems like those who set the rules are okay with potentially removing a type of car from a major race just to make sure that they aren't sandbagging, and then letting it catch up over the next couple shorter and less important races.
2) I'm pretty disappointed by the factory's performance...again. Porsche has given away the last two WEC GT championships, and they haven't been as competitive as they have in the past. Yes, they are facing some stiff competition, but I would argue the 919, a car far more complex and one that was being entered by the factory for the first time in a long time, had a better start to its career. If you think they'll make up for this at Le Mans, I've got my eye on that 499P out of Maranello.
I will remain a fan, but I expect more. Onward and upward!
#224
Personally, I am not a fan of the top class, GTP, being so much a BoP class. We are inundated with Spec classes and really that is what GTP is. There is very little room any real innovation. Many are hoping this is a new golden era for IMSA and WEC for the top class....I am not holding my breath.
#225
Originally Posted by winders
Personally, I am not a fan of the top class, GTP, being so much a BoP class. We are inundated with Spec classes and really that is what GTP is. There is very little room any real innovation. Many are hoping this is a new golden era for IMSA and WEC for the top class....I am not holding my breath.
Interestingly enough the BoP only had a different in NMAX RPM:
Acura - 9512
Cadillac - 8800
BMW - 8000
Porsche - 8152
The BMW and Porsche being the lowest RPM limits, but not sure if that is detune vs what they have been running? Or if it means nothing at all.
My only hope is Daytona is unique with the high speed that perhaps the higher RPM/smaller power unit in the Acura just ram better than most. And potentially as we get into more technical tracks that the others come alive from there. Not holding my breathe on development otherwise.