unotaz

How about color? What's the current +/- when it comes to color?

Me&You

Like sechsgang alluded to, I know you know what you're talking about, but from what I'm seeing, the prices you listed would indicate a best case scenario... Colored car, 05, serviced, clutch, etc, with deductions from the prices listed for anything 'less than' ideal, i.e. Silver 04 with 10k miles that needs an engine out is far less than the $700k posted (never mind if it had closer to 20k miles)...

Allan-BilletDesign

Not sure if this car has been discussed...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-carrera-gt-2/

ewright

I was recently offered a 30k-ish mile car for similar money. Recent service, needed nothing, good condition for the mileage. Would have made a reasonable driver.

superquant

all i know is what i paid 05 serviced silver 8k miles ;-)

the rest is hearsay ..

agree these prices are just ballpark and would be for serviced cars ready to go; deduct 50k+ for non serviced and other stories ..

sechsgang

TBH the cars that are much less than that tend to be cars that are avoided for an assortment of reasons...hes pretty on when it comes to his plus or minus 50k mark. There are people/brokers scouring the market for these DAILY...if a car is sitting or unsold and you think you're the only one who knows about it, there's normally a reason, and you're far from the only one.

localmotion411

This. I think the really good condition well sorted cars tend to sell behind the scenes.

ewright

100%.

Me&You

Well, I think we're essentially saying the same thing - the prices indicated are a "best case scenario" and I even said lower prices would indicate something is less than ideal, whether color, year, deferred service, etc, which can all compound and amount to a much lower price (and a car that might languish on the market). At the same time, I think to achieve the prices posted, everything needs to be goldilocks, i.e "just right"

tims16m

So a 2005 Silver 2000 mile car needing engine out service, good clutch reading, new tires, and good PPI would be a 725K or less? I’m figuring a deduction for color and service. Could this be had bought in the 675k range?

Jrtaylor9

Probably well bought at 675?

sechsgang

you're looking at 740-750 there if it needs the FULL service with stats like that normally. At 725 you're already at a damn good deal and If you can buy that car for 675 you'd be in a MAJOR deal territory!

Me&You

What? No.

'Quant's posted range showed 0-5k miles @ $800+, which to me indicates that a car with 2,000 miles would be well into the "+".

If you look back at the ranges indicated in his post, $725 is squarely in 10k mile territory, which I feel is only achievable for a 10k mile car in an absolute goldilocks scenario, where everything is "just right" - year, color, service, history, etc.

FWIW, I agree with sechgang's assessment on the proper price for the car you described... It's just that doesn't jive with the original pricing chart and all I've been trying to say is that the prices listed are a best case scenario; anything less will be, well, less...

At the end of the day, these aren't widgets and each car will have to be evaluated individually.

tims16m

I was taking the 800K estimate then subtracting. Maybe not a "perfect car"(always something), color is most common produced, engine out service still needed to be performed, also missing luggage set. If your not taking color as a deduction and instead adding for color variance other than silver,then 750K range is possible? Realistically 675K is almost unobtainable on a "good" car now. 2 yrs ago, I passed on a 1500 mile 2004 car very similar b/c I couldn't get the car transported to get a PPI done. It was a "now or I have someone else to buy" scenario.

Me&You

And I was taking the 0-5,000 mile range @ $800+ to mean a 5,000 mile car is $800 and it goes up from there for lower miles. So in your example of a 2k mile car, I assumed a much higher starting point than $800 even and then yes, agree to deductions for Silver (most common as you said) and a service.

Other recent participants in this thread would probably tell you that $675 will still get you a very good car.