(Hopefully) Constructive "things you don't like/hate about your Macan" thread
#121
Rennlist Member
#122
Drifting
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I noticed that too when we first got it, but it's gone away. Not sure if the car changed (broke in) or I adjusted to it. I'm pretty sure I'd still be able to feel it if it was there because it wasn't that subtle. Seems to be gone for my wife also, though we both commented on it initially.
#123
Track Day
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
First thing I noticed on my first ride in my SE in December '19--I have never owned a car, Porsche or others, that was this grabby. I am still a bit surprised when it happens.
#124
Drifting
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I don't know if this is a "thing I don't like" (because I accidentally shut something off) or "something broke" comment, but the HVAC and heated seat controls for the rear seats (located at the rear of the console) no longer work. The temperature up/down toggle no longer lights up and nothing happens when you click the rear heated seats button. Is it possible I accidentally shut something off or is it broken? I looked in the HVAC options in the car setup menu and didn't see anything to control regarding the rear seats.
#125
Advanced
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I don't know if this is a "thing I don't like" (because I accidentally shut something off) or "something broke" comment, but the HVAC and heated seat controls for the rear seats (located at the rear of the console) no longer work. The temperature up/down toggle no longer lights up and nothing happens when you click the rear heated seats button. Is it possible I accidentally shut something off or is it broken? I looked in the HVAC options in the car setup menu and didn't see anything to control regarding the rear seats.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The following users liked this post:
peterp (02-10-2020)
#126
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Disabling controls in the rear – child protection
Fig. 165: Disabling controls in the rear
#127
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I don't know if this is a "thing I don't like" (because I accidentally shut something off) or "something broke" comment, but the HVAC and heated seat controls for the rear seats (located at the rear of the console) no longer work. The temperature up/down toggle no longer lights up and nothing happens when you click the rear heated seats button. Is it possible I accidentally shut something off or is it broken? I looked in the HVAC options in the car setup menu and didn't see anything to control regarding the rear seats.
Thanks for this! I guess I should RTFM.
#128
Drifting
Thread Starter
#129
Racer
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I did a test drive of a base 2018 Macan yesterday. Overall, I was quite impressed. The 4-cyl had similar acceleration to my 4-cyl X3 xDrive. The ride was smoother and road noise a bit less, thanks to the "real" tires vs. run-flats. The steering felt tighter. With the Doppelkopplung, shifts seemed much smoother. Fit and finish were overall good, no rattles.
I definitely thought the 14-way seats were way more comfortable after sitting in a newer model that contained them so that I could compare. The 8-way seats have IMO insufficient lumbar support and cannot evidently be adjusted. The other thing I did not like so much were the dinky mirrors, both rear view and outside. Yes, big mirrors look klunky and reduce the aerodynamics, but seeing what's behind you is important. The seat height relative to the visibility over the hood cold be a bit better even though I'm about an inch shy of six feet tall -- I have more of a commanding view in the X3 with the seat height all the way up. The interior of the Macan felt a little more cramped perhaps because the headroom is a tad lower than in the X3. The rear seats are pretty limited as is well known though the indentations for legs was a good thought. I'm not so concerned about hauling passengers often nor over long distances. The more aggressively sloping rear rooflne makes for less cargo space though the overall length, width and height with the rear seats down are actually not that much less than in the X3, excepting the height towards the rear because of the aforementioned slope.Finally, the display in the newer models is definitely a step up, though my older X3 has a similarly small screen as the pre-2019 model Macans and I've gotten used to it.
Overall, I did like the vehicle and some things you have to let grow on you and get used to them. There are always some quirks, no matter what, and you have to just accept that this is what the engineers and designers decided to do.
I definitely thought the 14-way seats were way more comfortable after sitting in a newer model that contained them so that I could compare. The 8-way seats have IMO insufficient lumbar support and cannot evidently be adjusted. The other thing I did not like so much were the dinky mirrors, both rear view and outside. Yes, big mirrors look klunky and reduce the aerodynamics, but seeing what's behind you is important. The seat height relative to the visibility over the hood cold be a bit better even though I'm about an inch shy of six feet tall -- I have more of a commanding view in the X3 with the seat height all the way up. The interior of the Macan felt a little more cramped perhaps because the headroom is a tad lower than in the X3. The rear seats are pretty limited as is well known though the indentations for legs was a good thought. I'm not so concerned about hauling passengers often nor over long distances. The more aggressively sloping rear rooflne makes for less cargo space though the overall length, width and height with the rear seats down are actually not that much less than in the X3, excepting the height towards the rear because of the aforementioned slope.Finally, the display in the newer models is definitely a step up, though my older X3 has a similarly small screen as the pre-2019 model Macans and I've gotten used to it.
Overall, I did like the vehicle and some things you have to let grow on you and get used to them. There are always some quirks, no matter what, and you have to just accept that this is what the engineers and designers decided to do.
The following users liked this post:
BOPE (02-12-2020)
#130
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I did a test drive of a base 2018 Macan yesterday. Overall, I was quite impressed. The 4-cyl had similar acceleration to my 4-cyl X3 xDrive. The ride was smoother and road noise a bit less, thanks to the "real" tires vs. run-flats. The steering felt tighter. With the Doppelkopplung, shifts seemed much smoother. Fit and finish were overall good, no rattles.
I definitely thought the 14-way seats were way more comfortable after sitting in a newer model that contained them so that I could compare. The 8-way seats have IMO insufficient lumbar support and cannot evidently be adjusted. The other thing I did not like so much were the dinky mirrors, both rear view and outside. Yes, big mirrors look klunky and reduce the aerodynamics, but seeing what's behind you is important. The seat height relative to the visibility over the hood cold be a bit better even though I'm about an inch shy of six feet tall -- I have more of a commanding view in the X3 with the seat height all the way up. The interior of the Macan felt a little more cramped perhaps because the headroom is a tad lower than in the X3. The rear seats are pretty limited as is well known though the indentations for legs was a good thought. I'm not so concerned about hauling passengers often nor over long distances. The more aggressively sloping rear rooflne makes for less cargo space though the overall length, width and height with the rear seats down are actually not that much less than in the X3, excepting the height towards the rear because of the aforementioned slope.Finally, the display in the newer models is definitely a step up, though my older X3 has a similarly small screen as the pre-2019 model Macans and I've gotten used to it.
Overall, I did like the vehicle and some things you have to let grow on you and get used to them. There are always some quirks, no matter what, and you have to just accept that this is what the engineers and designers decided to do.
I definitely thought the 14-way seats were way more comfortable after sitting in a newer model that contained them so that I could compare. The 8-way seats have IMO insufficient lumbar support and cannot evidently be adjusted. The other thing I did not like so much were the dinky mirrors, both rear view and outside. Yes, big mirrors look klunky and reduce the aerodynamics, but seeing what's behind you is important. The seat height relative to the visibility over the hood cold be a bit better even though I'm about an inch shy of six feet tall -- I have more of a commanding view in the X3 with the seat height all the way up. The interior of the Macan felt a little more cramped perhaps because the headroom is a tad lower than in the X3. The rear seats are pretty limited as is well known though the indentations for legs was a good thought. I'm not so concerned about hauling passengers often nor over long distances. The more aggressively sloping rear rooflne makes for less cargo space though the overall length, width and height with the rear seats down are actually not that much less than in the X3, excepting the height towards the rear because of the aforementioned slope.Finally, the display in the newer models is definitely a step up, though my older X3 has a similarly small screen as the pre-2019 model Macans and I've gotten used to it.
Overall, I did like the vehicle and some things you have to let grow on you and get used to them. There are always some quirks, no matter what, and you have to just accept that this is what the engineers and designers decided to do.
#131
Drifting
Thread Starter
#132
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Everything I have read mentioned that the sweet spot for this model in the S version. Do you have an experience to share?
I have a base C2, so it’s not about impressing my neighbor. The C2 is all that I can handle. Maybe you believe the “S” is overkill?
I have a base C2, so it’s not about impressing my neighbor. The C2 is all that I can handle. Maybe you believe the “S” is overkill?
#133
Racer
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i am thinking about a Macan for a DD, so thanks for this comparison. We have an X3 M40i and like it a lot, but my brain is fixated on a Macan S. I am also thinking about a MB GLE coupe. I haven’t driven either yet and still doing research. One thing that I read is that the Macan transmission tunnel intrudes on the gas pedal creating an odd driving position, so looking to check that out on Tuesday.
I actually did like the fact that the base Macan was so quiet - if I wanted sports car environment noises, I'd have a sports car to experience them(as I have in the past). A big difference to me was the ride on the non-RFT tires. If I ever got another BMW (unlikely), I'd seriously consider getting conventional tires and throwing a spare in the back. The way they pack that compact spare in the Macan is really nice and the ride was so much better than in my X3 with RFTs.
#134
Three Wheelin'
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i am thinking about a Macan for a DD, so thanks for this comparison. We have an X3 M40i and like it a lot, but my brain is fixated on a Macan S. I am also thinking about a MB GLE coupe. I haven’t driven either yet and still doing research. One thing that I read is that the Macan transmission tunnel intrudes on the gas pedal creating an odd driving position, so looking to check that out on Tuesday.
We have a 2020 S. I have not found the tunnel to be an issue for the driver. The passenger side has a little of the tunnel intrusion. Base vs S was an easy decision for us. I had the base Macan for a loaner numerous times. Nice car but never really fell in love with it. Dealer gave us an S for the weekend. That sealed the deal. The roughly $9k difference was well worth it.
#135
Burning Brakes
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I've discussed in other threads how I spent over a year deciding between the base Macan and the Macan S: Having owned two Panameras with up to 462 hp and 516 lb-ft of torque, I wasn't looking at a Macan to compete but rather as a useful daily vehicle with higher ground clearance that I can take places that I can't so easily take my Panamera. For the better part of a year, I wouldn't even consider a base Macan (even though I'd never driven one); I thought "no way" was I going to buy a 4-cylinder Porsche, so I was close-minded on the issue. But when I told my salesman that I wanted something that I could take more places than my Panamera, and knowing that I was focussing on Cayennes and Macans, he one day suggested that I test-drive a base Macan (knowing that the Macan S wasn't impressing me for the cost, and the Cayenne was too truck-like), and I did. (In proper context, I was delaying on buying a 2018 Macan because I strongly dislike the old infotainment screen and knew that the new-gen Panamera/Cayenne screen was coming to the 2019 Macan, so no way was I buying a pre-2019 Macan; that gave me over a year to really think before I bought my 2019 Macan.). I was pleasantly surprised, especially comparing driving a base with a Macan S on the same day (and multiple days, multiple different bases and Ss). I came to the conclusion that the S wasn't all that much better than the base, and that I could save some serious money by going with the base. I special-ordered a 2019 base Macan last year and have been very happy with my decision after 13.5k miles and 8 months; glad that I didn't get the S, because we're getting a new car for my wife this year and probably another Porsche for me next year.
But one thing that I've noticed, which is much-commented on about Porsches: their onboard computers apparently learn your style of driving, and adjust the transmission gear-changing accordingly. I'm a fast driver, and my base Macan quickly learned my style and is very fast from zero, and just a wonderful-accelerating vehicle. In some of my driving of loaner base Macans and test-driven new base Macans, I've noticed that the "computer learning" wasn't in place "yet", and they didn't accelerate as quickly as mine does -- or at least I'm assuming that's why there's a noticeable difference in various base Macans that I've driven. I'm sure that's also true for different Macan S vehicles -- that some are computer-mapped differently from others, based on who's been driving them. Does my base Macan accelerate as fast as my 462-hp Panamera? Of course not. But then it cost less than half as much, and it's a very different type of vehicle. I see lots of Macans in my local area on the streets here, every day, and I rarely see one that's being driven fast, like I drive. I see lots of Ss, as well as some base Macans, and the occasional Turbo or GTS, but few of their drivers seem interested in driving faster than the Toyotas and Kias all around us, so I'm not sure what the obsession is with the V6.
But one thing that I've noticed, which is much-commented on about Porsches: their onboard computers apparently learn your style of driving, and adjust the transmission gear-changing accordingly. I'm a fast driver, and my base Macan quickly learned my style and is very fast from zero, and just a wonderful-accelerating vehicle. In some of my driving of loaner base Macans and test-driven new base Macans, I've noticed that the "computer learning" wasn't in place "yet", and they didn't accelerate as quickly as mine does -- or at least I'm assuming that's why there's a noticeable difference in various base Macans that I've driven. I'm sure that's also true for different Macan S vehicles -- that some are computer-mapped differently from others, based on who's been driving them. Does my base Macan accelerate as fast as my 462-hp Panamera? Of course not. But then it cost less than half as much, and it's a very different type of vehicle. I see lots of Macans in my local area on the streets here, every day, and I rarely see one that's being driven fast, like I drive. I see lots of Ss, as well as some base Macans, and the occasional Turbo or GTS, but few of their drivers seem interested in driving faster than the Toyotas and Kias all around us, so I'm not sure what the obsession is with the V6.