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03-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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i see mark still is so bored that he has time to do all these translation services for free. good job old man.I especially like it when you call me "old man" - there is no higher compliment.
"old man" reminds me that I have been incredibly lucky in my life. I have a great family, including 3 grandchildren and a lot of friends. Oh, but you don't really have friends, you only want to ********** with pictures of you with real drivers in your poseur race suit.
"old man" also reminds me that for an old guy, I am faster than you are in a race car. Oh, but you won't really race, you only want to ********** in the guise of time trials.
"old man" reminds me that for an old guy, I can probably also beat you in a competition of martial arts. Oh, but you probably won't really compete, you only want to ********** in the guise of kata or such.
"old man" reminds me that for an old guy, I have been far more succesful than you in the business/financial arena. Oh, but you you only want to ********** in the guise of how much PRETEND money you made on paper one year.
"old man" brings a smile to my face every time - again thanks for reminding me of how lucky I am.
03-24-2007, 05:12 PM
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ohh, i'm proud of the fact that you like to benchmark your success against a n00b like me. hahaha. 
03-24-2007, 05:18 PM
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in the interest of lowering my body fat percentage and be stronger and more fit for high performance droving... it's back to the old school... really old school. time to diet like a cave man.
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Paleolithic Nutrition
The Paleolithic lasted from about 200 000 years ago to about 12 000 years ago and was characterized by a hunting and gathering lifestyle for humans. During this time the food supply consisted almost exclusively of lean wild meats, fish, vegetables and fruits. These provided all the nutrients necessary for a very active lifestyle which involved far more exercise than our current way of living. Most importantly, because humans slowly adapted to this food supply over 2 000 000 years, the human genome was very compatible with all the various types of proteins, fats, carbohydrates and micro-nutrients found in these foods as well as various anti-nutrients that the plants and animals evolved to discourage their consumption. Thus it is very unlikely that the normal constituents of the food supply (excluding bacteria etc) would have caused any common biochemical malfunctions (ie disease) because those not compatible with such foods would have been naturally selected from the gene pool over the hundreds of thousands of years this food supply was consumed. Thus a diet of lean meat, fish, fruits and vegetables is now considered to represent a Paleolithic Diet and such a diet is basically that to which humans are genetically adapted.
With the rapid increase of the human population and a consequent dwindling of the standard foods, humans added new foods to their diet and these included grains (cultivated grass seed) and milk and meat products from domesticated animals. This change to a "grow your own" food supply of the agricultural revolution began about 12 000 years ago in the Middle East and slowly spread westward, reaching Scandinavia and the British Isles about 6 000 years ago.
There can be little doubt that in the early days of agriculture there must have been a broad spectrum of genetic incompatibilities with these new foods which contained a great variety of new, never-seen-before proteins as well as a much greater abundance of saturated fat than the Paleolithic foods. Such incompatibilities likely varied from very high to minor. Over the last 6000 years most of the genes which were very incompatible with the new foods were probably eliminated from the gene pool because of the biochemical failures (illnesses) which would have hit those with such genes before the age of reproduction. However those with lesser genetic incompatibilities and who were not affected by adverse reactions until after the age of reproduction (~18-30) have passed on such genes to our current generations. Thus most diseases associated with the new foods of dairy, grains and high saturated fat meats do not appear until later in life. These include heart disease, stroke, some cancers (prostate, breast, colon), many autoimmune diseases and a variety of chronic degenerative diseases (eg Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s).
Notably a few of these disease do occur in young people and include juvenile diabetes and arthritis. These "exceptions to the rule" most likely relate to the very recent practice of supplementing babies with the new foods (milk, wheat, soy) in the first year of life. Such a practice will identify another group of individuals with very specific food incompatibilities and who would have probably been fine for a long time if they had not had such an early exposure to the problematic foods.
In summary it only makes sense that if our genes are compatible with a supply of a great variety of chemicals from lean meat, fish, fruits and vegetables that any deviation from this is going to have a negative effect on part of the gene pool. Thus it is not surprising that epidemiological studies have shown that the more dairy, grains and high fat meats a society eats the greater the prevalences of all the various non-infectious, "lifestyle" diseases which were listed above. The fact that the people of the outports of Newfoundland who eat mainly fish and home grown vegetables have one tenth the amount of multiple sclerosis than do genetically similar Albertans whose diet is dominated by red meats, grains and dairy products is a fine example of the relationship between disease prevalence and dietary habits. If your car was built for diesel fuel, don’t be surprised if you have a variety of malfunctions when you start filling it with high octane gasoline!
It can be instructive to compare a Paleolithic diet with a standard North American one to understand where the main problems lie.
PROTEIN-In a Paleolithic diet protein makes up about 25-30% of calories and is derived almost exclusively from lean meats and fish. This contrasts with the NA diet which consists of only 10-15% protein which is derived from high fat meats, grains, dairy products and legumes. Thus both the amount and sources vary greatly between the two dietary practices. Proteins play a major role in autoimmune disease and thus these new sources of proteins (dairy, grains, legumes) which present the immune system with completely new protein fragments, are very problematic. Celiac disease is a fine example of an autoimmune disease driven by these novel proteins. These newly introduced proteins also play a major role in MS, rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s and type 1 diabetes.
CARBOHYDRATES-Paleolithic carbohydrates were gained mainly from fruits and vegetables which have a low glycemic index and which are associated with abundant micro-nutrients and fibre. They made up about 30-35% of the calorie intake. Once again the contrast with the NA diet is huge. In the NA diet carbohydrates are derived mainly from grains and refined sugars with fruits and vegetables being a minor supply. Furthermore carbohydrates make up 50-60% of calories, nearly twice that of the Paleolithic diet. These new sources of carbohydrates have a high glycemic index and this, in combination with the great increase in intake, significantly stresses the glucose-insulin system. This results in a myriad of diseases most often led by type 2 diabetes. These new carbohydrates also have much less fibre and micro-nutrients which also has a very negative health effect.
FATS-Fats comprise about 35-40% of Paleolithic calories and consisted mainly of monosaturated and polyunsaturated fats. In the polyunsaturated fats substantial amounts of omega 3 EFAs were included such that the omega 6/omega 3 ratio was less than 4. Saturated fats made up less than 40% of fat supply. The main sources of fat were lean wild animals, fish and nuts. Currently the NA diet contains similar amounts of fat (35-40%) but the amounts of the various types of fats are very different. The main fat types eaten today are saturated fat from fatty red meats and dairy products and trans fatty acids from margarines and processed baked goods. Omega 3 fats are almost non existent in the diet and the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 EFAs exceeds 10. The overabundance of saturated fat, the introduction of an entirely new fat type (trans fatty acids) and a major deficiency in omega 3 EFA have resulted in major health problems including heart disease, stroke, hypertension, cancer and chronic degenerative diseases.
MICRONUTRIENTS-The Paleolithic diet contains many more micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, antioxidants) than does the NA diet. Vitamin consumption was about three times that of today in the Paleolithic due to the high intake of fruits and vegetables. Similarly intake of Zn, Ca, K and Fe was much higher in the Paleolithic. Only sodium and perhaps iodine are consumed much more today. Sodium consumption is about eight times that of the Paleolithic and this overabundance of Na along with an very low consumption of most minerals and vitamins not surprisingly has serious consequences for health.
In summary our current diet is very different from that consumed in the Paleolithic and with which humans are genetically compatible. These major differences are having a major effect on the health of the NA population and MS is just one of a broad spectrum of lifestyle diseases driven by our radically new dietary habits.
Below are a few links to sites which add more information and insight into Paleolithic Nutrition. The Eaton paper and the Cordain interview are excellent reviews of Paleolithic nutrition by the leading experts in the field. The Challem article is a layman’s summary and both the Wiss site and the Nicholson site contain a number of useful links to other sites which discuss Paleolithic nutrition.
source: http://www.direct-ms.org/paleolithic_nutrition.html
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Paleolithic Nutrition
The Paleolithic lasted from about 200 000 years ago to about 12 000 years ago and was characterized by a hunting and gathering lifestyle for humans. During this time the food supply consisted almost exclusively of lean wild meats, fish, vegetables and fruits. These provided all the nutrients necessary for a very active lifestyle which involved far more exercise than our current way of living. Most importantly, because humans slowly adapted to this food supply over 2 000 000 years, the human genome was very compatible with all the various types of proteins, fats, carbohydrates and micro-nutrients found in these foods as well as various anti-nutrients that the plants and animals evolved to discourage their consumption. Thus it is very unlikely that the normal constituents of the food supply (excluding bacteria etc) would have caused any common biochemical malfunctions (ie disease) because those not compatible with such foods would have been naturally selected from the gene pool over the hundreds of thousands of years this food supply was consumed. Thus a diet of lean meat, fish, fruits and vegetables is now considered to represent a Paleolithic Diet and such a diet is basically that to which humans are genetically adapted.
With the rapid increase of the human population and a consequent dwindling of the standard foods, humans added new foods to their diet and these included grains (cultivated grass seed) and milk and meat products from domesticated animals. This change to a "grow your own" food supply of the agricultural revolution began about 12 000 years ago in the Middle East and slowly spread westward, reaching Scandinavia and the British Isles about 6 000 years ago.
There can be little doubt that in the early days of agriculture there must have been a broad spectrum of genetic incompatibilities with these new foods which contained a great variety of new, never-seen-before proteins as well as a much greater abundance of saturated fat than the Paleolithic foods. Such incompatibilities likely varied from very high to minor. Over the last 6000 years most of the genes which were very incompatible with the new foods were probably eliminated from the gene pool because of the biochemical failures (illnesses) which would have hit those with such genes before the age of reproduction. However those with lesser genetic incompatibilities and who were not affected by adverse reactions until after the age of reproduction (~18-30) have passed on such genes to our current generations. Thus most diseases associated with the new foods of dairy, grains and high saturated fat meats do not appear until later in life. These include heart disease, stroke, some cancers (prostate, breast, colon), many autoimmune diseases and a variety of chronic degenerative diseases (eg Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s).
Notably a few of these disease do occur in young people and include juvenile diabetes and arthritis. These "exceptions to the rule" most likely relate to the very recent practice of supplementing babies with the new foods (milk, wheat, soy) in the first year of life. Such a practice will identify another group of individuals with very specific food incompatibilities and who would have probably been fine for a long time if they had not had such an early exposure to the problematic foods.
In summary it only makes sense that if our genes are compatible with a supply of a great variety of chemicals from lean meat, fish, fruits and vegetables that any deviation from this is going to have a negative effect on part of the gene pool. Thus it is not surprising that epidemiological studies have shown that the more dairy, grains and high fat meats a society eats the greater the prevalences of all the various non-infectious, "lifestyle" diseases which were listed above. The fact that the people of the outports of Newfoundland who eat mainly fish and home grown vegetables have one tenth the amount of multiple sclerosis than do genetically similar Albertans whose diet is dominated by red meats, grains and dairy products is a fine example of the relationship between disease prevalence and dietary habits. If your car was built for diesel fuel, don’t be surprised if you have a variety of malfunctions when you start filling it with high octane gasoline!
It can be instructive to compare a Paleolithic diet with a standard North American one to understand where the main problems lie.
PROTEIN-In a Paleolithic diet protein makes up about 25-30% of calories and is derived almost exclusively from lean meats and fish. This contrasts with the NA diet which consists of only 10-15% protein which is derived from high fat meats, grains, dairy products and legumes. Thus both the amount and sources vary greatly between the two dietary practices. Proteins play a major role in autoimmune disease and thus these new sources of proteins (dairy, grains, legumes) which present the immune system with completely new protein fragments, are very problematic. Celiac disease is a fine example of an autoimmune disease driven by these novel proteins. These newly introduced proteins also play a major role in MS, rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s and type 1 diabetes.
CARBOHYDRATES-Paleolithic carbohydrates were gained mainly from fruits and vegetables which have a low glycemic index and which are associated with abundant micro-nutrients and fibre. They made up about 30-35% of the calorie intake. Once again the contrast with the NA diet is huge. In the NA diet carbohydrates are derived mainly from grains and refined sugars with fruits and vegetables being a minor supply. Furthermore carbohydrates make up 50-60% of calories, nearly twice that of the Paleolithic diet. These new sources of carbohydrates have a high glycemic index and this, in combination with the great increase in intake, significantly stresses the glucose-insulin system. This results in a myriad of diseases most often led by type 2 diabetes. These new carbohydrates also have much less fibre and micro-nutrients which also has a very negative health effect.
FATS-Fats comprise about 35-40% of Paleolithic calories and consisted mainly of monosaturated and polyunsaturated fats. In the polyunsaturated fats substantial amounts of omega 3 EFAs were included such that the omega 6/omega 3 ratio was less than 4. Saturated fats made up less than 40% of fat supply. The main sources of fat were lean wild animals, fish and nuts. Currently the NA diet contains similar amounts of fat (35-40%) but the amounts of the various types of fats are very different. The main fat types eaten today are saturated fat from fatty red meats and dairy products and trans fatty acids from margarines and processed baked goods. Omega 3 fats are almost non existent in the diet and the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 EFAs exceeds 10. The overabundance of saturated fat, the introduction of an entirely new fat type (trans fatty acids) and a major deficiency in omega 3 EFA have resulted in major health problems including heart disease, stroke, hypertension, cancer and chronic degenerative diseases.
MICRONUTRIENTS-The Paleolithic diet contains many more micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, antioxidants) than does the NA diet. Vitamin consumption was about three times that of today in the Paleolithic due to the high intake of fruits and vegetables. Similarly intake of Zn, Ca, K and Fe was much higher in the Paleolithic. Only sodium and perhaps iodine are consumed much more today. Sodium consumption is about eight times that of the Paleolithic and this overabundance of Na along with an very low consumption of most minerals and vitamins not surprisingly has serious consequences for health.
In summary our current diet is very different from that consumed in the Paleolithic and with which humans are genetically compatible. These major differences are having a major effect on the health of the NA population and MS is just one of a broad spectrum of lifestyle diseases driven by our radically new dietary habits.
Below are a few links to sites which add more information and insight into Paleolithic Nutrition. The Eaton paper and the Cordain interview are excellent reviews of Paleolithic nutrition by the leading experts in the field. The Challem article is a layman’s summary and both the Wiss site and the Nicholson site contain a number of useful links to other sites which discuss Paleolithic nutrition.
source: http://www.direct-ms.org/paleolithic_nutrition.html
03-24-2007, 06:00 PM
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ohh, i'm proud of the fact that you like to benchmark your success against a n00b like me. hahaha.
03-24-2007, 07:53 PM
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ohh, i'm proud of the fact that you like to benchmark your success against a n00b like me. hahaha.
03-24-2007, 08:06 PM
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Hey Pinky Dinky Do, I think this is a great idea. You've already got a hand axe, now all you need are some woolly mammoths. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
As an alternative, I'd like to suggest that you try the feast/famine diet. It's pretty well thought of in scientific circles. Similar to the diet you suggest, you go for a long period of fasting followed by extreme feasting - much like our prehistoric ancestors did. Start by not eating anything for 60 days and check back in with us. And, don't drink any water for the first week either. I guarantee that you will significantly reduce your body fat.
As an alternative, I'd like to suggest that you try the feast/famine diet. It's pretty well thought of in scientific circles. Similar to the diet you suggest, you go for a long period of fasting followed by extreme feasting - much like our prehistoric ancestors did. Start by not eating anything for 60 days and check back in with us. And, don't drink any water for the first week either. I guarantee that you will significantly reduce your body fat.
03-24-2007, 08:10 PM
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Or you could try the famous old Chinese Bird Diet, invented by Phat Mi Dong.....that is the one where you train yourself to eat like a canary and **** like a goose!
03-24-2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SundayDriver
Yet another insightful and intelligent response from GhettoRacist. But, in fact, I benchmark myself against people who are far more successful than you - some are much younger than you too.
03-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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you are obviously still far from understanding human mentality; despite your old age... we are our own worst enemy. the only one you should be benchmarking against is yourself. there will be always someone that's more successful than you on different aspect/levels. but i forgot, you are too old to learn... so this concept might be too difficult for you to absorb or comprehend.
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03-24-2007, 08:49 PM
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I am obviously still far from English even as a 4th language; despite my old age... I am my own worst enema. the only one I should be benchmarking against is myself, and I SUCK despite repeatedly invoking the names of pro racers WHO ALSO SAY THAT I SUCK. there will be always someone that's more successful than you on different aspect/levels. but i never learned that lesson despite being humiliated 40+ times a day on multiple web forums on which I post because I crave attention, I am too stupid to learn... so this concept might be too difficult for me to absorb or comprehend (sort of like apexing).
03-24-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TD in DC
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03-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Oh man, here we go again. If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here. Please stop wasting your time trying to convince anyone other than yourself.