strut tower failure
#1111
Just to give another view on the problem:
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
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#1113
Just to give another view on the problem:
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
#1114
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I would say if you are that worried maybe. Honestly insurance and repairable item right ? My car is over 17k miles no issues. Crocgt4 out here has 70k miles. It’s luck of the draw it seems. If you can’t afford several $k service tho maybe not a great choice. It would be nice to see Porsche own these issues.
#1115
I feel like every performance car is going to have some issue or the other. Not trying to downplay the specific strut tower issue being discussed, but if you look at the history of sports cars currently and previously released, the issue list is huge:
(1) C7 Z06 --> overheating and paint issues
(2) 991.1 GT3 --> motor issues
(3) Current gen McLarens --> electrical and motor problems
(4) 90s and 2000s Ferraris --> Servicing issues and motor issues
And the list goes on....
(1) C7 Z06 --> overheating and paint issues
(2) 991.1 GT3 --> motor issues
(3) Current gen McLarens --> electrical and motor problems
(4) 90s and 2000s Ferraris --> Servicing issues and motor issues
And the list goes on....
#1116
I realize all performance cars have issues but a failing strut tower could be a catrosphic issue at freeway speeds resulting in death. Really not prepared to take that chance. Has anyone utilized the structure reinforcement provided through SP on theses cars? I believe it is the same idea on the factory club sport GT cars.
#1117
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I realize all performance cars have issues but a failing strut tower could be a catrosphic issue at freeway speeds resulting in death. Really not prepared to take that chance. Has anyone utilized the structure reinforcement provided through SP on theses cars? I believe it is the same idea on the factory club sport GT cars.
Their purpose is to link to the Clubsport's additional frame struts, to more solidly locate the strut towers relative to the tub.
#1118
Darn, I thought I found a fix for the Strut failures....
#1119
That ist not my expierence with Manthey. They have been pretty open about issues also with newer Porsche models. It's part of their buisness to find aftermarket sollutions for these issues.
Taking part in the racing on the Ring and talking with some people that have been using the 981 for years in racing I have never heared of a strut tower failures on any of these cars.
In VLN-racing there are 3 classes full of 981 participating partially with more then 20k trackmiles.
#1120
With all due respect what You're saying is that Manthey is lying about not having had any strut tower failures on GT4s in their workshop because they are owned by Porsche.
That ist not my expierence with Manthey. They have been pretty open about issues also with newer Porsche models. It's part of their buisness to find aftermarket sollutions for these issues.
Taking part in the racing on the Ring and talking with some people that have been using the 981 for years in racing I have never heared of a strut tower failures on any of these cars.
In VLN-racing there are 3 classes full of 981 participating partially with more then 20k trackmiles.
That ist not my expierence with Manthey. They have been pretty open about issues also with newer Porsche models. It's part of their buisness to find aftermarket sollutions for these issues.
Taking part in the racing on the Ring and talking with some people that have been using the 981 for years in racing I have never heared of a strut tower failures on any of these cars.
In VLN-racing there are 3 classes full of 981 participating partially with more then 20k trackmiles.
#1121
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Just to give another view on the problem:
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
Manthey has had hundreds of GT4 Clubsports and GT4 with ....thousands of track mileage in and out of their workshop. Quite some of them have been raced hard and hiting a lot of harsh curbs.
They haven't seen one strut tower failure on a GT4.
It is also possible that they crash and re-tub cars with enough frequency to not give the struts enough time to fail.
But if indeed no strut failures had occurred after that many hard track miles, that’s definitely a very encouraging data point. The question is whether that really is the case.
#1123
With due respect as well. There is a difference between lying and not talking about it. These strut tower failures occur as evidenced on here. AFAIK race teams with CSs have instructions on how to replace these. That is in a way a small acknowledgement that this could occur even with the reinforcements these cars have with the front cage extensions.
And I've talked with them more than once about the topic and it is the answer that I've gotten more than once.
I have never stated that strut tower failures on GT4 don't happen. I don't doubt that the information on here about them are just.
I just wanted to share the information that strut tower failures are not a known issue on tracked and raced 981 GT4 over here.
#1124
Manthay is full of **** if they're saying they haven't seen a failure... I know of one of their cars that failed at the 24.
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The shock bodies are more than likely similar, but way higher valving... as would be springs... FWIW, a reputable shop in SF has seen multiple clubsport failures from laguna seca and sonoma.
Manthay is full of **** if they're saying they haven't seen a failure... I know of one of their cars that failed at the 24.
Manthay is full of **** if they're saying they haven't seen a failure... I know of one of their cars that failed at the 24.