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Old 12-08-2016, 10:46 AM
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I also agree on this...I have the sport headers/ exhaust/COBB AP and at 10K miles it has been great with no problems....was going to pull the trigger on the IPD/TB but that GT3 intake setup being tested by TPC and BGB sounds interesting and if I'm going to swap the intake side of the engine (and risk having issues with the dealer) might as well go for the best package....of course, it also depends on cost!
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Originally Posted by legin
I have taken the plunge so the message is getting through although Im starting with just intake and tune as it might be all im looking for. If not i will go to headers as well. I doubt I need the x51 as my 997 x51 was only 408 bhp anyway.
Remember that the 991 X51 GTS package has more porting and different intake cams. So that package is rated at 430hp stock at the crank whereas the previous generation 997.2 X51 was 408hp.

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i am surprised sometimes after so much time, at how much overwhelmingly positive feedback on the intake/exhaust mods for this engine, and yet how much hesitation there still is. This should be a sticky thread somewhere.

"For very little money, you can have a still very street-friendly GT4/Spyder with what feels like a racey engine which breaths fully and has much more power and torque from low to high rpm, just by changing to sport headers (I'm brand agnostic) and adding the intake mods.. don't think.. just press "purchase".. there is literally no performance compromise.. it's ALL better.
Agreed! Obviously i am biased because we sell the parts but i have come to understand that a lot of folks have warranty concerns and don't want to take the plunge just yet but in due time they will. i am just happy that everyone is enjoying their parts and that there are no issues.
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Old 12-08-2016, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
Agreed! Obviously i am biased because we sell the parts but i have come to understand that a lot of folks have warranty concerns and don't want to take the plunge just yet but in due time they will. i am just happy that everyone is enjoying their parts and that there are no issues.
I understand that some owners worry that modifying their cars will void their warranty. I don't share their concerns. Aside from some well-documented issues, few of which pertain to the GT4, most modern Porsches have been extremely reliable. As long as you're not opening up the engine or transmission the other power mods that are available for our cars are extremely unlikely to cause damage that could lead to a warranty claim.

This is just my .02. I love the intake and exhaust mods I've done. As others have said, they are well worth the cost.
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Originally Posted by Beantown Kman
I understand that some owners worry that modifying their cars will void their warranty. I don't share their concerns. Aside from some well-documented issues, few of which pertain to the GT4, most modern Porsches have been extremely reliable. As long as you're not opening up the engine or transmission the other power mods that are available for our cars are extremely unlikely to cause damage that could lead to a warranty claim.

This is just my .02. I love the intake and exhaust mods I've done. As others have said, they are well worth the cost.
What about the gearbox issues?
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Originally Posted by Beantown Kman
I understand that some owners worry that modifying their cars will void their warranty. I don't share their concerns. Aside from some well-documented issues, few of which pertain to the GT4, most modern Porsches have been extremely reliable. As long as you're not opening up the engine or transmission the other power mods that are available for our cars are extremely unlikely to cause damage that could lead to a warranty claim.

This is just my .02. I love the intake and exhaust mods I've done. As others have said, they are well worth the cost.
Very well said Btw what front lip do you have on the Cayman R in your profile picture?
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Did you guys just stuff a 4.0L RS motor into a GT4...

ANSWER ME.

You could have upset the space time continuum.
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Originally Posted by user1029
Did you guys just stuff a 4.0L RS motor into a GT4...

ANSWER ME.

You could have upset the space time continuum.
hahaha...they did. 4.0L X51.....
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whew I thought it was the OEM GT3RS 4.0L that revs to 8800rpm, almost gave my wallet a heart attack...
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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
Very well said Btw what front lip do you have on the Cayman R in your profile picture?
That's a Bodymotion front splitter. As you probably know, it's not suitable for a street car.
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Originally Posted by user1029
Did you guys just stuff a 4.0L RS motor into a GT4...

ANSWER ME.

You could have upset the space time continuum.
Ha ha ha! Not exactly. Since the motor in the GT3 requires a different style ECU than what is in the 981s/991s, we did what we think is the next best thing. We took a stock, virgin GT4 engine, bolted the X51 Power Kit to it (Stage II) and then added the 4.0L crank, pistons and rods (Stage III). Same combination of parts that were on the Boxster Spyder we did with Stage III over the summer but it started life as a PDK Cayman S AND we added a full race exhaust. So it's obnoxiously loud and the strongest PDK conversion we have ever done. The guy ran it at Homestead for 2 straight days in the heat and had nothing but smiles. During the test drive it would spin the tires in 1st, 2nd and 3rd unless you had heat in them. It made 415hp and 315 lb/ft at the tires in a dyno room that had 140F intake air temps. I ran no fans to the intakes or the radiator screens. It was an effort to heat soak the car and recreate true track conditions in the southeast. I was running pump gas too. I have asked that the owner run 98 octane when he goes on track in that heat to keep the knock control from going bananas. It's awesome. I would love to put a GT3 motor in one of these cars one day but the cost to execute is insane. This is still a stock Porsche engine and since we don't over-bore, if the owner ever wanted to go back to stock, he could. HOWEVER, there's no chance of that. He loves the car too much now to ever give it up! He likes the 8K RPM upshifts too much!
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
Ha ha ha! Not exactly. Since the motor in the GT3 requires a different style ECU than what is in the 981s/991s, we did what we think is the next best thing. We took a stock, virgin GT4 engine, bolted the X51 Power Kit to it (Stage II) and then added the 4.0L crank, pistons and rods (Stage III). Same combination of parts that were on the Boxster Spyder we did with Stage III over the summer but it started life as a PDK Cayman S AND we added a full race exhaust. So it's obnoxiously loud and the strongest PDK conversion we have ever done. The guy ran it at Homestead for 2 straight days in the heat and had nothing but smiles. During the test drive it would spin the tires in 1st, 2nd and 3rd unless you had heat in them. It made 415hp and 315 lb/ft at the tires in a dyno room that had 140F intake air temps. I ran no fans to the intakes or the radiator screens. It was an effort to heat soak the car and recreate true track conditions in the southeast. I was running pump gas too. I have asked that the owner run 98 octane when he goes on track in that heat to keep the knock control from going bananas. It's awesome. I would love to put a GT3 motor in one of these cars one day but the cost to execute is insane. This is still a stock Porsche engine and since we don't over-bore, if the owner ever wanted to go back to stock, he could. HOWEVER, there's no chance of that. He loves the car too much now to ever give it up! He likes the 8K RPM upshifts too much!
I'm afraid to ask the price ...
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Originally Posted by kahane18
I'm afraid to ask the price ...
It's not as bad as you would think. If you are starting life with a GT4 or a Boxster Spyder and you want just the X51 and the 4.0L upgrade and don't want an LSD and mufflers, before the cost of the Accessport, the tune and any custom dyno tuning, you're right at $30K. Add the headers and the the tuning and you're gaining as much as 100 horsies at the tires! The cost of those items is about $5K to $6K depending on if you're running cats.
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
It's not as bad as you would think. If you are starting life with a GT4 or a Boxster Spyder and you want just the X51 and the 4.0L upgrade and don't want an LSD and mufflers, before the cost of the Accessport, the tune and any custom dyno tuning, you're right at $30K. Add the headers and the the tuning and you're gaining as much as 100 horsies at the tires! The cost of those items is about $5K to $6K depending on if you're running cats.
I dunno... that's way worse than what I would think. Lol. But I'm new to this Porsche tuning game.

But I mean it's great. The cost prohibits me from really doing any power mods so I save a lot of money and just enjoy the car for what it is. Woohoo!
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
It's not as bad as you would think. If you are starting life with a GT4 or a Boxster Spyder and you want just the X51 and the 4.0L upgrade and don't want an LSD and mufflers, before the cost of the Accessport, the tune and any custom dyno tuning, you're right at $30K. Add the headers and the the tuning and you're gaining as much as 100 horsies at the tires! The cost of those items is about $5K to $6K depending on if you're running cats.


I already have the headers tune and IPD on the car, what is the realistic gain by by increasing displacement for $30k?
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Originally Posted by user1029
Did you guys just stuff a 4.0L RS motor into a GT4...

ANSWER ME.

You could have upset the space time continuum.
lol

Originally Posted by kahane18
I already have the headers tune and IPD on the car, what is the realistic gain by by increasing displacement for $30k?
A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha


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