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Old 06-30-2016, 11:07 AM
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UPDATE: Cobb Tuning has revised their software to give me control of the final piece of the puzzle and i will be trying it out today. This puts me in a position to wrap up everything to the point where i am happy with it and i'm ready to keep pushing on to find more ways to make more power. Cams anyone?!?
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:23 AM
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Yaaaaaaay. Keep us posted.
Old 06-30-2016, 01:06 PM
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just a working one with the TB would be a start, enough for 99 % of the GT4 out there if we can get 420BHp and avoid the 5k torque dip.
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CAMS!
Old 07-01-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
UPDATE: Cobb Tuning has revised their software to give me control of the final piece of the puzzle and i will be trying it out today. This puts me in a position to wrap up everything to the point where i am happy with it and i'm ready to keep pushing on to find more ways to make more power. Cams anyone?!?
I thought the X51 package included heads and cams or are you suggesting standalone cams without the X51 package?
Old 07-01-2016, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mrd_spy
just a working one with the TB would be a start, enough for 99 % of the GT4 out there if we can get 420BHp and avoid the 5k torque dip.
Agree
Old 07-01-2016, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BRNGT4
I thought the X51 package included heads and cams or are you suggesting standalone cams without the X51 package?
the x51 cams are wimpy

might as well go with more aggressive cams while you have everything apart
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Originally Posted by mrd_spy
just a working one with the TB would be a start, enough for 99 % of the GT4 out there if we can get 420BHp and avoid the 5k torque dip.
Agree x2. If a TB and a COBB tune would get me to 420, I would do that in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted by user1029
the x51 cams are wimpy

might as well go with more aggressive cams while you have everything apart
Well as good as that sounds the CA crew will never pass smog
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Agree x2. If a TB and a COBB tune would get me to 420, I would do that in a heartbeat.
It would be a much more desirable mod for the short term... ie warranty concerns
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Originally Posted by Crazy Eddie
It would be a much more desirable mod for the short term... ie warranty concerns
You think you could keep your warranty, or prevent a dealer from realizing, a TB and a Cobb tune?
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Originally Posted by Crazy Eddie
Well as good as that sounds the CA crew will never pass smog
Benjamin Franklin(s) can be quite persuasive
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Originally Posted by mrd_spy
just a working one with the TB would be a start, enough for 99 % of the GT4 out there if we can get 420BHp and avoid the 5k torque dip.
This already exists. See below:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning
the v102 maps are needed for the IPD Plenum/TB upgrade. We just released a firmware update yesterday which moved the maps to release firmware so you (or your tuner) can access them by updating the firmware on the Accessport and then selecting the "Restore OTS Maps" option in the Tune menu of the Accessport.
Based on what I learned from with Jared @ COBB and John @ BGB if you have an AccessPort you need to have a tune based on a v102 map and check the box for the P0068 toggle.

I also checked COBBs site for updated info and they JUST released a v103 with new maps that reads:
"New Porsche 981 GT4/ Boxster Spyder Maps
V103 - 981 Cayman GT4 / Boxster Spyder updated maps to accommodate IPD plenum and throttle body
Added Stage2 to support aftermarket headers."


https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wik...1+NA+Map+Notes

ACI Dynamix a shop near me is building a Stage 2 GT4 right now and has a reputable in house Cobb Pro Tuner. With just the tune they got to 400hp, and they expect the TB, IPD plenum and headers to add around 20whp maybe more.

The 5k dip was fixed with a tune ONLY (no bolt-ons necessary)
I can repost the dyno print out from ACI if you want to see the fixed dip.

Their GT4 did 310 whp stock and 320 whp.
It was tuned on an AWD Mustang dyno with 20% drivetrain loss (AWD dyno that has the rear wheels spining the rear rollers, the front rollers and the front wheels):
385 engine hp*20%=308 wheel hp
400 crank hp*20%=320 wheel hp

I'll post again when they have the dyno for the retune with bolt-ons.
Old 07-02-2016, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenner
This already exists. See below:



Based on what I learned from with Jared @ COBB and John @ BGB if you have an AccessPort you need to have a tune based on a v102 map and check the box for the P0068 toggle.

I also checked COBBs site for updated info and they JUST released a v103 with new maps that reads:
"New Porsche 981 GT4/ Boxster Spyder Maps
V103 - 981 Cayman GT4 / Boxster Spyder updated maps to accommodate IPD plenum and throttle body
Added Stage2 to support aftermarket headers."


https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wik...1+NA+Map+Notes

ACI Dynamix a shop near me is building a Stage 2 GT4 right now and has a reputable in house Cobb Pro Tuner. With just the tune they got to 400hp, and they expect the TB, IPD plenum and headers to add around 20whp maybe more.

The 5k dip was fixed with a tune ONLY (no bolt-ons necessary)
I can repost the dyno print out from ACI if you want to see the fixed dip.

Their GT4 did 310 whp stock and 320 whp.
It was tuned on an AWD Mustang dyno with 20% drivetrain loss (AWD dyno that has the rear wheels spining the rear rollers, the front rollers and the front wheels):
385 engine hp*20%=308 wheel hp
400 crank hp*20%=320 wheel hp

I'll post again when they have the dyno for the retune with bolt-ons.
would love to see the tune only fix for the dip
Old 07-02-2016, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CarAholic
Originally Posted by Jenner
This already exists. See below:

Based on what I learned from with Jared @ COBB and John @ BGB if you have an AccessPort you need to have a tune based on a v102 map and check the box for the P0068 toggle.

I also checked COBBs site for updated info and they JUST released a v103 with new maps that reads:
"New Porsche 981 GT4/ Boxster Spyder Maps
V103 - 981 Cayman GT4 / Boxster Spyder updated maps to accommodate IPD plenum and throttle body
Added Stage2 to support aftermarket headers."


https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wik...1+NA+Map+Notes

ACI Dynamix a shop near me is building a Stage 2 GT4 right now and has a reputable in house Cobb Pro Tuner. With just the tune they got to 400hp, and they expect the TB, IPD plenum and headers to add around 20whp maybe more.

The 5k dip was fixed with a tune ONLY (no bolt-ons necessary)
I can repost the dyno print out from ACI if you want to see the fixed dip.

Their GT4 did 310 whp stock and 320 whp.
It was tuned on an AWD Mustang dyno with 20% drivetrain loss (AWD dyno that has the rear wheels spining the rear rollers, the front rollers and the front wheels):
385 engine hp*20%=308 wheel hp
400 crank hp*20%=320 wheel hp

I'll post again when they have the dyno for the retune with bolt-ons.
would love to see the tune only fix for the dip


20 ft/lbs and 20hp gained @ ~4750 RPM
Smooths out the dip nicely on both curves.
Old 07-02-2016, 06:03 PM
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Guys, if you're in a warm area, a tune is the last thing you want. Jump to bgb's x51. We've had so much trouble with Cobb at the track a few of us have removed it. All the free hp is too good to be true.


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