GT4 - Unlocking the Power Potential!
03-23-2017, 01:46 PM
#886
[QUOTE=Fabspeed Motorsport;14055030]lol 
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
03-23-2017, 02:02 PM
#887
[QUOTE=kahane18;14055205]
I don't know where you'd fit a super charger.
I think in the spirit of what makes the GT4 great, you'd want to go the path of a power kit to get it closer to how the motor should have felt from the factory. The big difference between the GT3 vs GT4 is not the torque, it's that the GT3 pulls hard all the way to redline (and yes, the redline is t 9k). GT4 loses interest around 6500, even though it can rev to 8ish. The Powerkit fixes that problem, and while the redline is not raised, the car now pulls hard all the way to 7800. That is not necessarily worth the lap time gains, but it's worth the smiles for sure.
lol
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
I think in the spirit of what makes the GT4 great, you'd want to go the path of a power kit to get it closer to how the motor should have felt from the factory. The big difference between the GT3 vs GT4 is not the torque, it's that the GT3 pulls hard all the way to redline (and yes, the redline is t 9k). GT4 loses interest around 6500, even though it can rev to 8ish. The Powerkit fixes that problem, and while the redline is not raised, the car now pulls hard all the way to 7800. That is not necessarily worth the lap time gains, but it's worth the smiles for sure.
03-23-2017, 02:20 PM
#888
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[QUOTE=kahane18;14055205]
You find me a supercharger for that car and I am SO DOWN! Putting a supercharger on a 2017 Escalade next month, and Alpha 9 turbos on a GTR right now haha
lol
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
"A blistering amount of torque improvement is the biggest transformation, but thats not to say the hp is much less impressive. It is worth a plane ticket to go experience it in person, trust me you'll be more than impressed haha"
Not sure car needs much more power, it already spins the wheels all the way to 3rd gear under hard acceleration. another $30k hmm... that and the trade in value of mine will get me a new GT3....
Oh just remembered, for about a third of that i can just bolt on a supercharger to it and get same or better numbers...I'm sure your shop can accommodate?
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03-23-2017, 02:23 PM
#889
[QUOTE=ShakeNBake;14055273]
I don't know where you'd fit a super charger.
I think in the spirit of what makes the GT4 great, you'd want to go the path of a power kit to get it closer to how the motor should have felt from the factory. The big difference between the GT3 vs GT4 is not the torque, it's that the GT3 pulls hard all the way to redline (and yes, the redline is t 9k). GT4 loses interest around 6500, even though it can rev to 8ish. The Powerkit fixes that problem, and while the redline is not raised, the car now pulls hard all the way to 7800. That is not necessarily worth the lap time gains, but it's worth the smiles for sure.
I am well aware of the GT4's capabilities and I was only poking some fun at the $30k price tag on the engine mods.
For $30 to $40k on top of my GT4 i can realistically get on line at my dealer for an allocation on a GT3, the question is do I want to?
I love the GT4 enough to keep it a wile longer but spending that much money on it that you will never get back when you sell doesn't seem worth it for me.(just my .02c)
I don't know where you'd fit a super charger.
I think in the spirit of what makes the GT4 great, you'd want to go the path of a power kit to get it closer to how the motor should have felt from the factory. The big difference between the GT3 vs GT4 is not the torque, it's that the GT3 pulls hard all the way to redline (and yes, the redline is t 9k). GT4 loses interest around 6500, even though it can rev to 8ish. The Powerkit fixes that problem, and while the redline is not raised, the car now pulls hard all the way to 7800. That is not necessarily worth the lap time gains, but it's worth the smiles for sure.
I am well aware of the GT4's capabilities and I was only poking some fun at the $30k price tag on the engine mods.
For $30 to $40k on top of my GT4 i can realistically get on line at my dealer for an allocation on a GT3, the question is do I want to?
I love the GT4 enough to keep it a wile longer but spending that much money on it that you will never get back when you sell doesn't seem worth it for me.(just my .02c)
03-23-2017, 02:30 PM
#890
[QUOTE=Fabspeed Motorsport;14055329]
Ok maybe not a supercharger...but I'm sure i saw somewhere that someone makes turbos for the Caymans. Almost the same thing....
03-23-2017, 02:39 PM
#891
[QUOTE=kahane18;14055336]
I am well aware of the GT4's capabilities and I was only poking some fun at the $30k price tag on the engine mods.
For $30 to $40k on top of my GT4 i can realistically get on line at my dealer for an allocation on a GT3, the question is do I want to?
I love the GT4 enough to keep it a wile longer but spending that much money on it that you will never get back when you sell doesn't seem worth it for me.(just my .02c)
I hear ya.
I am well aware of the GT4's capabilities and I was only poking some fun at the $30k price tag on the engine mods.
For $30 to $40k on top of my GT4 i can realistically get on line at my dealer for an allocation on a GT3, the question is do I want to?
I love the GT4 enough to keep it a wile longer but spending that much money on it that you will never get back when you sell doesn't seem worth it for me.(just my .02c)
03-23-2017, 05:09 PM
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Probably 80 rwhp and 40 rwlb/ft. This iteration produces just shy of 500 hp if you can get on a dyno outside of Florida where it's hot 12 months per year. Everyone calls or emails weekly about putting a GT3 motor in a Cayman and no one does it because it will cost well over $100K. We are pretty proud of being able to put near 500 hp in the GT4 for that money. Our customers dont plan to sell these cars any time soon because now they have GT3 power in the Cayman. To each his own. My $.02.
03-23-2017, 05:56 PM
#893
Probably 80 rwhp and 40 rwlb/ft. This iteration produces just shy of 500 hp if you can get on a dyno outside of Florida where it's hot 12 months per year. Everyone calls or emails weekly about putting a GT3 motor in a Cayman and no one does it because it will cost well over $100K. We are pretty proud of being able to put near 500 hp in the GT4 for that money. Our customers dont plan to sell these cars any time soon because now they have GT3 power in the Cayman. To each his own. My $.02.
Thanks for the input.
03-24-2017, 10:39 AM
#895
I heard some rumblings of a 4.4L 9A1 stroker last year... 
Now what's my credit limit again?
03-25-2017, 12:22 PM
#898
This could be a very interesting track project and one I may do in the future as a dedicated track car.....I always check with local insurance companies just in case a boxster or cayman, that is fixable for track, becomes available....
03-25-2017, 09:33 PM
#900
4.0L can be gotten by either 104mm pistons and the stock 77.5mm stroke or the stock 102mm pistons and an 81.4mm crank.
The common 4.2 L configurations requires a 81.4mm stroke crankshaft and 104mm pistons. To get there via a crank alone would require 102mm pistons and 85mm stroke. It is thought that the max you can move the wrist pin in a piston to compensate for longer stroke is 2mm (4mm added stroke) due to nearness of the bottom ring.. The rest has to come from shorter rods to keep the pistons in the block. I am not aware of anyone who has made a 85mm crankshaft.
Bigger than 104mm, you tell me. One thing's for sure, the longer stroke and shorter rods and heavier pistons are going to wear the cylinders a lot quicker. Might have to lower tthe max RPM to extend life.
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The common 4.2 L configurations requires a 81.4mm stroke crankshaft and 104mm pistons. To get there via a crank alone would require 102mm pistons and 85mm stroke. It is thought that the max you can move the wrist pin in a piston to compensate for longer stroke is 2mm (4mm added stroke) due to nearness of the bottom ring.. The rest has to come from shorter rods to keep the pistons in the block. I am not aware of anyone who has made a 85mm crankshaft.
Bigger than 104mm, you tell me. One thing's for sure, the longer stroke and shorter rods and heavier pistons are going to wear the cylinders a lot quicker. Might have to lower tthe max RPM to extend life.
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