Upcoming Cayman GT4
02-06-2015, 09:12 PM
#436
99% of the time I would agree with you guys, but I really think this is one of those rare instances where Porsche has just mis-judged demand. In my short carreer, I have not seen interest like this since the Audi R8 in 2007 and the GT3 RS 4.0. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about: Right now, as an employee, I have absolutely no shot at purchasing one- even at retail.
Think of it this way: What other mid-engine car is out there? This is going to be compared with the 458 and the MP-12c... Obviously it's down on power, but I think we can all agree that raw power is just a fraction of what makes a car fun to drive. For someone that wants a mid-engine automobile, there is nothing available anywhere NEAR this vehicle.
I really hope that Porsche decides to produce enough of these, but in all honesty I don't think they will- The hype it will create from unavialability is worth significantly more to the brand than however much they will profit on a few thousand cars.
Think of it this way: What other mid-engine car is out there? This is going to be compared with the 458 and the MP-12c... Obviously it's down on power, but I think we can all agree that raw power is just a fraction of what makes a car fun to drive. For someone that wants a mid-engine automobile, there is nothing available anywhere NEAR this vehicle.
I really hope that Porsche decides to produce enough of these, but in all honesty I don't think they will- The hype it will create from unavialability is worth significantly more to the brand than however much they will profit on a few thousand cars.
If anyone is in the Los Angeles/ OC area and wants to start a relationship up with a dealer that actually knows and appreciates the product, I have only 1 deposit so far.
We are going to try to keep our allocations for local customers though- again we would like to build a relationship with our clients.
We are going to try to keep our allocations for local customers though- again we would like to build a relationship with our clients.
"we are gonna charge above and beyond". But don't worry because you'll guarantee that we'll like that experience.
P.S.
I still don't see the "sponsor" tag under your name.
02-06-2015, 09:49 PM
#437
no confusion necessary
keep the Spyder!
get the GT4 (yes, joe, do it)
add a bigger warehouse
keep the Spyder!
get the GT4 (yes, joe, do it)
add a bigger warehouse
02-06-2015, 10:19 PM
#438
Nordschleife Master
I would not sell the Spyder, I sold mine without fully thinking it out and was fortunate enough to buy it back a week later for the same price and it will not be for sale again.
As for the GT4 purchase I would balance it against your 991 GT3 and decide which is the better car for you. for me it is the Spyder and my 997.2 GT3 but each to his or her own.
As for the GT4 purchase I would balance it against your 991 GT3 and decide which is the better car for you. for me it is the Spyder and my 997.2 GT3 but each to his or her own.
I can always count on you guys to help me out! Love it! 
02-07-2015, 12:01 AM
#439
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Joe don't try to justify it, none of these cars are necessities in life. But you only live once so why not buy the GT4, keep the Spyder and the GT3. Or sell the GT3 and buy the GT4.....
You seriously need to get out on a canyon run with the Spyder, I can't believe you don't do that when you're so close to the best roads in the US!
You seriously need to get out on a canyon run with the Spyder, I can't believe you don't do that when you're so close to the best roads in the US!
02-07-2015, 12:24 AM
#440
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Joe don't try to justify it, none of these cars are necessities in life. But you only live once so why not buy the GT4, keep the Spyder and the GT3. Or sell the GT3 and buy the GT4.....
You seriously need to get out on a canyon run with the Spyder, I can't believe you don't do that when you're so close to the best roads in the US!
You seriously need to get out on a canyon run with the Spyder, I can't believe you don't do that when you're so close to the best roads in the US!
The GT3 is a beast, and if forced to choose, I would pick the GT3 over the GT4. I wish I could keep them all, but it's already ridiculous enough at this point! LOL.
I've never found any great roads closeby to where I live. My concerns have always been unknown road hazards, bikers, and police. Things only really come alive for me when I'm driving on a track for some reason. You're right, though, I need to find some better roads. I went to Marin the other day with ChrisF and it was a blast, but I was in the GT3.
02-07-2015, 12:52 AM
#441
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I've never found any great roads closeby to where I live. My concerns have always been unknown road hazards, bikers, and police. Things only really come alive for me when I'm driving on a track for some reason. You're right, though, I need to find some better roads. I went to Marin the other day with ChrisF and it was a blast, but I was in the GT3.
If after that you still prefer the track experience and want a more powerful scalpel the GT4 does make a great deal of sense. And don't be too quick to assume you won't like the GT4 as much or more than the GT3, you never know until you get a taste.
Love the license plate, F'n hilarious!
02-07-2015, 12:55 AM
#442
Nordschleife Master
Try the same drive in the Spyder, top down with no hindrance of a helmet or harness. No need to drive 9/10th's, just enjoy the drive. If after that you still prefer the track experience and want a more powerful scalpel the GT4 does make a great deal of sense. And don't be too quick to assume you won't like the GT4 as much or more than the GT3, you never know until you get a taste. Love the license plate, F'n hilarious!
Love the license plate, F'n hilarious!
02-07-2015, 05:35 AM
#443
guy is a track junkie....
paddle shift is faster. I know. i love my m3 CSL and it's different.
but convertible for track is less desirable due to a variety of reasons, starting with safety and ending with rigidity.
However, as you say, if you dun track and love the open road/winding roads and can access them, it is awesome.
I have wife and 2 kids like Joe, the fixes need to be super strong and intensive so only track will do, that's why the spyder had to go. If i drive at 3/10s, it would have stayed..........
I think Mooty summed it best. you have space, get another "mistress".
I think i'll go looking for another spyder when the clubsport boxster comes out, so i can keep it for when i retire and kids go off to college.
paddle shift is faster. I know. i love my m3 CSL and it's different.
but convertible for track is less desirable due to a variety of reasons, starting with safety and ending with rigidity.
However, as you say, if you dun track and love the open road/winding roads and can access them, it is awesome.
I have wife and 2 kids like Joe, the fixes need to be super strong and intensive so only track will do, that's why the spyder had to go. If i drive at 3/10s, it would have stayed..........
I think Mooty summed it best. you have space, get another "mistress".
I think i'll go looking for another spyder when the clubsport boxster comes out, so i can keep it for when i retire and kids go off to college.
02-07-2015, 06:16 PM
#444
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Valley Ford Rd out of Petaluma
Bohemian Highway to Camp Meeker
Marshall Petaluma Road from Nicasio
Kudos on the vanity plate...ROFL
02-07-2015, 11:24 PM
#446
Nordschleife Master
02-07-2015, 11:35 PM
#447
Ortho joe,
If I were you I wouldn't get the GT4. You already have the GT3 and said you would keep it over a gt4. Do you want two track cars? Would you ever want to drive the slower one if you had two? I would think a spider for street driving and the GT3 on track would be just about perfect.
just my $.02
If I were you I wouldn't get the GT4. You already have the GT3 and said you would keep it over a gt4. Do you want two track cars? Would you ever want to drive the slower one if you had two? I would think a spider for street driving and the GT3 on track would be just about perfect.
just my $.02
02-07-2015, 11:39 PM
#448
In the EVO video AP said that they wanted the GT4 to be a zero lift car (but is actually has downforce). My guess is that they decided a bigger wing would not balance with what they did with the front of the car. I am just an idiot with a keyboard though...
02-07-2015, 11:48 PM
#449
Nordschleife Master
Ortho joe,
If I were you I wouldn't get the GT4. You already have the GT3 and said you would keep it over a gt4. Do you want two track cars? Would you ever want to drive the slower one if you had two? I would think a spider for street driving and the GT3 on track would be just about perfect.
just my $.02
If I were you I wouldn't get the GT4. You already have the GT3 and said you would keep it over a gt4. Do you want two track cars? Would you ever want to drive the slower one if you had two? I would think a spider for street driving and the GT3 on track would be just about perfect.
just my $.02
02-07-2015, 11:53 PM
#450
Burning Brakes
