Marine Blue

This is the first I've heard of a new Spyder, did I miss something?

GreenLantern

There were some spy shots a few weeks back floating around here... I'll dig for it later when I have a sec, unless you/someone finds them first.

GreenLantern

Has nothing to do with dealers and everything to do with PAG / PCNA.

sebis

Maybe I missed it, what is the estimated price point? 100k USD or I am thinking too low?

GreenLantern

Yeah, somewhere in that ballpark.

GrantG

I heard under $90k, but no firm info yet.

f4 plt

I'm late to this parade but let me make a few comments.

1) According to several sources including Porsche the GT4 is coming but that is the extent of the information that is confirmed by numerous sources.

2) The statement that there will be but 200-400 units is hard to grasp since Porsche has never made a street vehcle in so few numbers. Ie over 700 Boxster Spyders for the states, some 600 GT3 RS 4.0 and 918 918 Spyders. Even the '73 Carrera RS was made in some 1500 units. So if it is to be a street vehicle I would expect at least 1000 units.

3) If the car is to be produced in number only to satisfy the minimum number for racing why are they leaking as if it were a street vehicle as Porsche has always held their race intentions and designs close to the chest.

As for the engine it is anyone's guess. We all want ot see the 3.8 but then in the great scheme of things Porsche might be more inclined to equip it with a four cyl. turbo of smaller displacement to help fleet fuel numbers and satisfy markets where vehicles are taxed by displacement.

As for suspension, if there indeed is a focus by Porsche ( and that would be great) to race the GT4 then an upgrade of the Cayman rear suspension is essential. Of course all this would mean that Porsche has changed its philosophy of the 911 variant being the race platform and not a mid engine design. We all know and some like Eric Foss etc have proven that the Cayman mid engine design is a winner.

Say, didn't Dr Porsche preach that mid engine was the optimum race design .... yes I think he did.

Just some more random thoughts as we wait for solid news of what we all hope will be.

987720

Just a thought...
Do you think the 200 for the states and 600 global number is for Cup Cars? and not production? I get a limited run, but 200 for the states seems pretty extreme for this.

GreenLantern

Yeah, I mean, while there were less 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0's and 997.2 GT2 RS's to come to the US, they didn't exactly say "Only 150 will come" (even though less than 150 came of each, if I recall correctly). The number wasn't even like that... Heck, even the number of 918 Spyders coming isn't: 297 (instead of "300").

200 examples of a ~$100k car is a bit absurd. Far too many potential buyers at that price point, and far too much money left on the table by PAG and PCNA.

And, when you factor in that there are 297 buyers in the US (918 Spyder owners/buyers) who get first right of refusal on these allocs, then it's even more business stupid to limit to just 200.

Exclusivity is great an all, but you only need to do that when your brand needs a boost in image in order to sell even more cars. I don't think Porsche needs it. Neither does Ferrari, and that's why only LaFerrari and the 458 Speciale A (not the 458 Speciale couple itself) are limited editions.

(The 458 Speciale A follows the same philosophy as the Scuderia Spyder 16M vs. the 430 Scuderia coupe. The roadster was limited, the coupe was not.)

GreenLantern

Anyone remember when dealers / rumors were saying that the Cayman GTS and Boxster GTS will be limited to 500 (or was it 300?) units, and that they're going to be impossibly difficult to find?

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...=GN_REFINEMENT

987720

WOW!!!!
Did not think that there was that many available on the market at the moment.
Crazy!

il pirata

Most likely the Boxster will be badged as a RS (with maybe Spyder added on) not a GT4 but in any case no Boxster Spyder top as in the 987 model.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news

987720

I thought this was debunked.
Only thing about this that is GT4 is the duck tail and the Front Bumper. The wheels, brakes, rear valence suggest a normal booster S.
Honestly I think it's Porsche throwing out a decoy to confuse us.

Marine Blue

I wonder if the dealer should have said "Only 200 will be built per year until 981 production ends". That's more realistic and would better serve the market and also maintain demand for the car.

GreenLantern

That would actually make more sense to me. Many GT, and even GT RS, cars have spanned multiple (2) model years:

997.1 GT2
997.1 GT3
997.2 GT3
991.1 GT3
997.1 GT3 RS
997.2 GT3 RS

Still, I think Porsche could easily sell more than 200/yr in the US of the 981.1 Cayman GT4.