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Old 10-31-2017, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
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2) 385hp in a Porsche Motorsports Division GT car for $85,000 isn't a good deal? How does that compare to the 2016 concurrent 400hp (also heavier) Carrera S at $100,000? Or the GT3 with 90 more horsepower for $47,000 more dollars at the time? Or the GT3RS with 115 more hp for $95,000 more dollars?.....
And what is the justification for $48k more for a measly 25hp more; just keeping your argument in the same family (model)?
Old 10-31-2017, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
And what is the justification for $48k more for a measly 25hp more; just keeping your argument in the same family (model)?
Huh? Sorry, you're going to need to be more specific. The GT4's 385 is "a measley 25hp more" than 360hp, and I can't think of a 360hp Porsche since the 1999 996.1 GT3, which wasn't brought into the US. So you must be talking about something other than the GT4?
Old 11-01-2017, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
Huh? Sorry, you're going to need to be more specific. The GT4's 385 is "a measley 25hp more" than 360hp, and I can't think of a 360hp Porsche since the 1999 996.1 GT3, which wasn't brought into the US. So you must be talking about something other than the GT4?
Can you not see the portion of your previous post that I quoted?
Old 11-01-2017, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by twentyseven
Not much logic around herelol.. why some of you guys blindly believe salesman that know less than we do...

As the GT4 & manual GT3 prove, Porsche listens to customers. EVERYONE is griping about the sound of the 718 so it's unlikely they would risk the new legendary lineage of the GT4 even if it hasn't already been said the next one will be atmospheric. They put a lot of work into the new 4.0, just as they did with the 911R gearbox. Read between the lines.

And someone pointed out earlier that GT4 demand was partially propped up due to the manual gearbox and VIP take rate. Consider that Porsche's retaliation to modern speculation/flipping is to build more GT3's, there will be enough cars (eventually). There were a handful of GT4's available to those who wanted one towards the end of production, and when people move on to their 991.2 and 982's there will be more 981's up for grabs which will slow the fervor too.

PS: they did not lose money on GT4's - they doubled production due to demand. It was also NOT underpriced; ~$100k for 385hp was already reaching and despite what you read, there were owners who sold their GT4's because it wasn't fast enough for the money compared to other choices in the same price range. Finally don't forget the development of the 981 GT4 carried over to the 718's in production now.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:03 AM
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OK enough speculation about the next GT4 powertrain, I'm more interested in when we might hear something official from Porsche about the next GT4..
Old 11-01-2017, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by perretar
OK enough speculation about the next GT4 powertrain, I'm more interested in when we might hear something official from Porsche about the next GT4..
Assuming Paris in March
Old 11-01-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CarAholic
Assuming Paris in March
Paris show is in October. Maybe you meant Geneva?
Old 11-01-2017, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Paris show is in October. Maybe you meant Geneva?
Not many spy photos around of the 718 GT4. Quite a few of the .2 RS which I suspect will debut in March.

Possibly next October for the GT4?
Old 11-01-2017, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Buteo
Not many spy photos around of the 718 GT4. Quite a few of the .2 RS which I suspect will debut in March.

Possibly next October for the GT4?
Didn't the 981 GT4 debut alongside the 991.1 GT3 RS at Geneva 2015?
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Old 11-01-2017, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Didn't the 981 GT4 debut alongside the 991.1 GT3 RS at Geneva 2015?
But we saw multiple spy shots of the GT4 testing on the Nurburgring and in the streets. If you check out the .2 RS speculation thread there are lots of photos of the .RS running around with minimal camouflage.

Who knows...I just would expect we would see more physical evidence of a 718 GT4 by now.
Old 11-01-2017, 02:28 PM
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Where is the GT4 built ??
Old 11-01-2017, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Buteo
Not many spy photos around of the 718 GT4. Quite a few of the .2 RS which I suspect will debut in March.

Possibly next October for the GT4?
Do you have any links to 718 GT4 spy photos?
The only spy photos I saw. Are articles showing the 981 spy photos and trying to pass them off as 718 spy photos.
Old 11-01-2017, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatte
Where is the GT4 built ??

at stuttgart on the same line as all boxters, caymans, 911's, GT cars, and cup cars. it is well worth a visit to the factory.
Old 11-01-2017, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrett
at stuttgart on the same line as all boxters, caymans, 911's, GT cars, and cup cars. it is well worth a visit to the factory.
The existing GT4 was almost exclusively built at the Karmann/VW Group factory in Osnabrück, Germany. But all 718 production is now in Zuffenhausen (Stuttgart).
Old 11-01-2017, 05:06 PM
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I thought the GT3 was from Flacht. At least that's what the commercial says. I am relatively new to Porsche and this forum so excuse my basic sounding questions.


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