Your Prediction: NEXT GT4 Engine
11-01-2017, 05:14 PM
#76
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Maybe they do the same and in March 2018 at Geneva introduce the GT3 RS.2 and GT4.2. Builds would then start at 2019 model year cars later in the year with first deliveries in late 2018 or early 2019.
This gives the GTS a bit more time to sell units than last time around. The GTS was introduced in 2014 with unit deliveries in USA starting early 2015. Then GT4 was announced in March 2015 and GTS sales and builds pretty much ended, as everyone wanted the GT4. My GT4 order, build and delivery was May, July and September 2015 respectively.
Who know, enjoying what I have and if the next one looks good, will get that one!
This gives the GTS a bit more time to sell units than last time around. The GTS was introduced in 2014 with unit deliveries in USA starting early 2015. Then GT4 was announced in March 2015 and GTS sales and builds pretty much ended, as everyone wanted the GT4. My GT4 order, build and delivery was May, July and September 2015 respectively.
Who know, enjoying what I have and if the next one looks good, will get that one!
11-01-2017, 06:09 PM
#77
Born and built are 2 different things. The GT4 is now over 2 years old based on when the first ones were built. So the answers to questions are equally as old. Please search first.
I am relatively new to Porsche and this forum so excuse my basic sounding questions.
11-01-2017, 07:47 PM
#78
I disagree.
1) it was not $100k, it was $85k. Sure, you could option it up to the sky, but if price matters to you, it was $85k.
2) 385hp in a Porsche Motorsports Division GT car for $85,000 isn't a good deal? How does that compare to the 2016 concurrent 400hp (also heavier) Carrera S at $100,000? Or the GT3 with 90 more horsepower for $47,000 more dollars at the time? Or the GT3RS with 115 more hp for $95,000 more dollars?
Sure, the 385hp 3.8 GT4 isn't going to outrun a GT350R for that price, nor a Camaro ZL1. But then, neither is the GT3. Porsches are shopped against other Porsches. Expensive Porsches are shopped against McLarens. Cheap Porsches aren't shopped against Mustangs, at least not in the vast majority of cases.
Cheers!
1) it was not $100k, it was $85k. Sure, you could option it up to the sky, but if price matters to you, it was $85k.
2) 385hp in a Porsche Motorsports Division GT car for $85,000 isn't a good deal? How does that compare to the 2016 concurrent 400hp (also heavier) Carrera S at $100,000? Or the GT3 with 90 more horsepower for $47,000 more dollars at the time? Or the GT3RS with 115 more hp for $95,000 more dollars?
Sure, the 385hp 3.8 GT4 isn't going to outrun a GT350R for that price, nor a Camaro ZL1. But then, neither is the GT3. Porsches are shopped against other Porsches. Expensive Porsches are shopped against McLarens. Cheap Porsches aren't shopped against Mustangs, at least not in the vast majority of cases.
Cheers!
2) The car itself was a killer value *when shopped against other Porsche’s*.. but unless you’re a brand snob, it’s prudent to take the blinders off and compare what’s out there when you’re spending good money. Even $85k for 385hp is a lot;; I also love GT3’s but I think they are getting a little too pricey. Ive put an M4 up against one and at literally half the price there isn’t much between them acceleration wise. Many people just want fast cars especially if they aren’t track junkies. I know a handful of people who liked their GT4’s but sold them because of this.
Everything I said was based on actual precedent. But if you wanna reach for fantasies that the very company who literally survived only because they shared parts across platforms and is famous for having the biggest margins will make a bespoke engine for a parts-bin car, by all means quote me and we’ll revisit this thread in 2018 lol
11-02-2017, 12:58 AM
#81
Three Wheelin'
Am I the only one who thinks we should be seeing a car running around... especially if we are expecting a march debut?
Maybe the 718 GT4 isn't happening until next March (2019) and sold as a 2020MY?
I'm not convinced a 718 GT4 is in the cards for us this coming year.
11-02-2017, 12:59 AM
#82
Drifting
1) Without looking up exact stats in the registry, it was pointed out earlier how many cars were well over $100k msrp. I used the “~” to indicate roughly as that is the median price. Few cars were spec’d zero option, and even conservative builds come close enough after tax/reg/ADM that we’re splitting pennies.
2) The car itself was a killer value *when shopped against other Porsche’s*.. but unless you’re a brand snob, it’s prudent to take the blinders off and compare what’s out there when you’re spending good money. Even $85k for 385hp is a lot;; I also love GT3’s but I think they are getting a little too pricey. Ive put an M4 up against one and at literally half the price there isn’t much between them acceleration wise. Many people just want fast cars especially if they aren’t track junkies. I know a handful of people who liked their GT4’s but sold them because of this.
Everything I said was based on actual precedent. But if you wanna reach for fantasies that the very company who literally survived only because they shared parts across platforms and is famous for having the biggest margins will make a bespoke engine for a parts-bin car, by all means quote me and we’ll revisit this thread in 2018 lol
2) The car itself was a killer value *when shopped against other Porsche’s*.. but unless you’re a brand snob, it’s prudent to take the blinders off and compare what’s out there when you’re spending good money. Even $85k for 385hp is a lot;; I also love GT3’s but I think they are getting a little too pricey. Ive put an M4 up against one and at literally half the price there isn’t much between them acceleration wise. Many people just want fast cars especially if they aren’t track junkies. I know a handful of people who liked their GT4’s but sold them because of this.
Everything I said was based on actual precedent. But if you wanna reach for fantasies that the very company who literally survived only because they shared parts across platforms and is famous for having the biggest margins will make a bespoke engine for a parts-bin car, by all means quote me and we’ll revisit this thread in 2018 lol
Plenty of higher hp and/or faster cars for less money than a GT3 or GT4. If that’s what you value, by all means, buy one and visit those forums.
11-02-2017, 02:16 AM
#83
11-02-2017, 03:26 AM
#84
I don't- the only one I've seen is the article you mentioned which is an old 981 photo.
Am I the only one who thinks we should be seeing a car running around... especially if we are expecting a march debut?
Maybe the 718 GT4 isn't happening until next March (2019) and sold as a 2020MY?
I'm not convinced a 718 GT4 is in the cards for us this coming year.
Am I the only one who thinks we should be seeing a car running around... especially if we are expecting a march debut?
Maybe the 718 GT4 isn't happening until next March (2019) and sold as a 2020MY?
I'm not convinced a 718 GT4 is in the cards for us this coming year.
11-02-2017, 09:37 AM
#86
Three Wheelin'
11-02-2017, 09:52 AM
#87
This is what I think will happen. It will be introduced in Paris in 2018 and will go on sale Spring of 2019. This is the perfect time to start delivering these so people in cold climates can get a full season of driving out of them immediately. This should also increase demand further.
11-02-2017, 10:02 AM
#88
Rennlist Member
11-02-2017, 02:16 PM
#89
Burning Brakes
My sales guy said yesterday he doesn’t think there’ll be a 718 GT4, or at least not anytime soon. Said he’s been given the months for all new 911 and other model released until 2019 but there is silence on this. His take is we’ll get a GT4 RS and that’ll be it as far as Boxster/Cayman NA engines are concerned.
11-02-2017, 02:28 PM
#90
Three Wheelin'
unless they dont race or move to a different gt4 spec car like McLaren, mustang etc (lots of new gt4 spec cars have come out the last 12 months)
PCA just announced the trophy east/west series for GTD (gt4) for next year
PCA just announced the trophy east/west series for GTD (gt4) for next year