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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Ben, that is what I do for the first time I'm on a new track, but after maybe 5~8 laps I get a hang of knowing where the track goes I removed it as I would find myself too focused on the line and not finding the visual references for braking, turn in, etc. Also I'm not sure what car they use for the reference line but in a number of tracks it sometimes different for our cars or maybe it's just my driving style.
Short answer yes just for the first few laps to know where the track goes.
Oh, like Justin I do this in a private session.

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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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I'll probably host a practice tonight around 9 central... Will post up if I do.
It was funny to see how my bad habits on iRacing translated to real life. Was able to correct my early turn in and not letting the car track out issues after a couple sessions. Hopefully it makes me quicker in the sim too.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinL
At first, I'd start in a test session alone so you aren't worrying about messing up other people and just hammer out laps. Fill the tank up to race fuel and just drive. I never use the driving line, I feel like I learn better when my brain has to use visual cues and landmarks to learn the track. Once you can turn 10-15 laps in a row without dropping a wheel, turn on the "session optimal sector" split timer and start focusing on improving individual sectors. I'll hit a point when I very rarely set anymore purple sectors and then I try stringing good sectors together into a good flying lap. That's where it's fun to pop into an open session to see how you compare to other drivers.
Thanks Justin. I'll try this.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pmason
Ben, that is what I do for the first time I'm on a new track, but after maybe 5~8 laps I get a hang of knowing where the track goes I removed it as I would find myself too focused on the line and not finding the visual references for braking, turn in, etc. Also I'm not sure what car they use for the reference line but in a number of tracks it sometimes different for our cars or maybe it's just my driving style.
Short answer yes just for the first few laps to know where the track goes.
Exactly, takes me more than 5-8 laps but this is what I've been doing. I agree that the line quickly becomes a major distraction but I've found it helps me memorize the track initially.

No fear: I'm terrified of causing a major pileup. I've been "shadowing" even on tracks I know.

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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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For contrast Ben, I don't use it at all... I don't even bother learning on a private test. I jump into a session with others, and treat as if it were my first time at a real track. I look for visual cues, etc. and if I can, try to tuck in behind someone and follow them for a bit.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
For contrast Ben, I don't use it at all... I don't even bother learning on a private test. I jump into a session with others, and treat as if it were my first time at a real track. I look for visual cues, etc. and if I can, try to tuck in behind someone and follow them for a bit.
LOL, I don't think I'll follow your lead on this. I'd quickly become persona non grata.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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I'm an autocrosser so I just try to do the looking ahead thing as much as possible on a new track. No practice sessions privately, just hop in ours on Sunday and see how fast I can get up to speed. Then I experiment a lot as I find the black marks on the track, especially at COTA are deceiving.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by abqautoxer
I'm an autocrosser so I just try to do the looking ahead thing as much as possible on a new track. No practice sessions privately, just hop in ours on Sunday and see how fast I can get up to speed. Then I experiment a lot as I find the black marks on the track, especially at COTA are deceiving.
Maybe that's why it doesn't bother me either - I also AX a lot.

My first lap ever at Autobahn North (real life) was when I started my stint ~120 minutes into a 24 Hours of Lemons race and I survived... so I guess I generally don't need private test time first to get comfortable. I just follow the other guys until I get my own rhythm.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Jim, that had to be kind of painful as the north track is pretty short. I've done it a couple of times with the Audi club when they do the north/south/full track configurations.
I see using the line not any different from having someone taking you out for a lap or two to just show you the line.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pmason
I see using the line not any different from having someone taking you out for a lap or two to just show you the line.
Tell me, I'll forget. Show me, I'll remember. Involve me, I'll understand.

If I don't understand why the line is where it is, I can't get zen with a corner. I think the process of learning, trial and error, and seeing the results on the split time is my best process. I've never been able to use the driving line or even watching videos effective compared to finding it for myself.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinL
I've never been able to use the driving line or even watching videos effective compared to finding it for myself.
I'm that way as well. But I feel I lack the basic understanding to get it right on my own in the first place so the line gets me on track. I have to agree with you that using this crutch may be keeping me from getting to where I need to be which is probably why I asked the question in the first place.

Thanks for all the responses. They're very helpful.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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Anyone up for a practice? lmk Ill host
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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"The iRacing member site is currently down for maintenance."
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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There is an update of COTA of 222megs ! Wow, they've redone it completely or what?
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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Are you able to sign in? I'm getting error messages.
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