GRR - CEL Code @ 654 miles on new '21 Cayenne
03-14-2022, 05:04 PM
#316
I have a pending vehicle inspection in May. It's my understanding -- confirmed by Porsche service manager -- that the CEL will present a problem in my state (PA.)
I called Porsche, and now have a case number. Curious to hear what they come back with, given that my $200k vehicle will be literally illegal to drive if I can't pass inspection.
Has anyone else been able to pass inspection despite this CEL issue?
I called Porsche, and now have a case number. Curious to hear what they come back with, given that my $200k vehicle will be literally illegal to drive if I can't pass inspection.
Has anyone else been able to pass inspection despite this CEL issue?
03-17-2022, 10:43 PM
#317
since purchase in April of 2021…I considered lemoning hte car, but ultimately getting a replacement and equivalent vehicle was not a clear option - in the mean time Porsche has provide generous consideration in exchange for me patiently waiting for the software update - utlimately it’s a joke this is an issue and confirms my bias that all car manufactures suck, and if you believe any of them are actually better than another you’re simply biased or not paying attention - but so far I’ve driven the car, love the car, tolerate the CEL until it’s fixed and got some meaningful accommodations from Porsche.
it will be better when this problem is fixed for the fleet.
it will be better when this problem is fixed for the fleet.
03-17-2022, 11:33 PM
#318
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
not sure what inspection you're referring to - also the code can be cleared and it doesn't' occur that much - Porsche is still planing to fix it so I'm told.
03-20-2022, 04:39 PM
#319
Drifting
I have a pending vehicle inspection in May. It's my understanding -- confirmed by Porsche service manager -- that the CEL will present a problem in my state (PA.)
I called Porsche, and now have a case number. Curious to hear what they come back with, given that my $200k vehicle will be literally illegal to drive if I can't pass inspection.
Has anyone else been able to pass inspection despite this CEL issue?
I called Porsche, and now have a case number. Curious to hear what they come back with, given that my $200k vehicle will be literally illegal to drive if I can't pass inspection.
Has anyone else been able to pass inspection despite this CEL issue?
03-25-2022, 01:10 PM
#320
Rennlist Member
03-25-2022, 01:21 PM
#321
The only CELs I've seen is after the car died a few times and had to be jumped. Those cleared themselves after a couple of restarts.
The 12V battery died a few times after leaving the charger plugged in for an extended period of time. I've brought the car into the dealer already and they have not found any issues with the 12V lithium battery or the Porsche Mobile Charger Connect. So I've been making sure to unplug the car after it's fully charged.
The following users liked this post:
JArnald (03-25-2022)
03-25-2022, 05:20 PM
#322
Burning Brakes
03-25-2022, 05:22 PM
#323
Burning Brakes
I think in an earlier post, someone said their dealer told them it should be fixed in 2022 models. I took delivery of a 2022 in October and I have not experienced the same CEL code that prompted this thread.
The only CELs I've seen is after the car died a few times and had to be jumped. Those cleared themselves after a couple of restarts.
The 12V battery died a few times after leaving the charger plugged in for an extended period of time. I've brought the car into the dealer already and they have not found any issues with the 12V lithium battery or the Porsche Mobile Charger Connect. So I've been making sure to unplug the car after it's fully charged.
The only CELs I've seen is after the car died a few times and had to be jumped. Those cleared themselves after a couple of restarts.
The 12V battery died a few times after leaving the charger plugged in for an extended period of time. I've brought the car into the dealer already and they have not found any issues with the 12V lithium battery or the Porsche Mobile Charger Connect. So I've been making sure to unplug the car after it's fully charged.
What onboard charger do you have (3.6 or 7.2 kW), and do you typically charge at Level 1 or Level 2?
03-26-2022, 10:41 AM
#324
So, I am now 1 year into my e-hybrid coupe and the CEL is still on. Mine cannot be cleared. Dealer has tried several times. Still no fix, I continue to follow up with my Service Manager as well as my contact at PCNA. What my service manager told me was that Porsche is having issues with NTSB or some other regulatory board given Diesel Gate. Who knows. I am seriously considering lemoning mine and getting a 22. PCNA has told me I can take that action at anytime bc the issue has voided the warranty. However, I wanted to see if the issue has truly been resolved in the 22's as I have been told. Any input would be appreciated.
03-26-2022, 11:03 AM
#325
Not exactly sure what caused the car to die. All I know is it has happened when leaving the car plugged in between 17 - 36hrs. And when I say die, I mean the 12V battery went into protection mode, so I couldn't even unlock the car with the fob and the car would not start. As soon as I connected the jumper cables, even without starting the donor car, the Cayenne's electrical system came back on.
It almost sounds like the issue that Taycans were having with their 12V batteries dying while plugged into a charger.
Has not happened in a few weeks, so I think that unplugging it once it's charged and using the charging timer is working.
03-26-2022, 11:40 AM
#326
Rennlist Member
onboard charger is 7.2kw and the outlet is a 240V.
Not exactly sure what caused the car to die. All I know is it has happened when leaving the car plugged in between 17 - 36hrs. And when I say die, I mean the 12V battery went into protection mode, so I couldn't even unlock the car with the fob and the car would not start. As soon as I connected the jumper cables, even without starting the donor car, the Cayenne's electrical system came back on.
It almost sounds like the issue that Taycans were having with their 12V batteries dying while plugged into a charger.
Has not happened in a few weeks, so I think that unplugging it once it's charged and using the charging timer is working.
Not exactly sure what caused the car to die. All I know is it has happened when leaving the car plugged in between 17 - 36hrs. And when I say die, I mean the 12V battery went into protection mode, so I couldn't even unlock the car with the fob and the car would not start. As soon as I connected the jumper cables, even without starting the donor car, the Cayenne's electrical system came back on.
It almost sounds like the issue that Taycans were having with their 12V batteries dying while plugged into a charger.
Has not happened in a few weeks, so I think that unplugging it once it's charged and using the charging timer is working.
Why would one leave a car plugged in between 17 - 36 hrs.?
With a level 2 charger, 240V outlet, onboard charger 7.2kw, I envisage 2 hour pops to bring it back full.
03-26-2022, 11:42 AM
#327
So, I am now 1 year into my e-hybrid coupe and the CEL is still on. Mine cannot be cleared. Dealer has tried several times. Still no fix, I continue to follow up with my Service Manager as well as my contact at PCNA. What my service manager told me was that Porsche is having issues with NTSB or some other regulatory board given Diesel Gate. Who knows. I am seriously considering lemoning mine and getting a 22. PCNA has told me I can take that action at anytime bc the issue has voided the warranty. However, I wanted to see if the issue has truly been resolved in the 22's as I have been told. Any input would be appreciated.
same issue as you. Cannot be cleared. I also have documentation from dealership that says there is no fix and issue cannot be cleared. So this is a clear lemon situation. The void warranty is news to me. I had other things that were broken fixed under warranty so not sure if that is true.
very frustrating. Love the car otherwise. Issue is not fixed with ‘22.
03-26-2022, 11:47 AM
#328
I have been on constant contact with PCNA and asked them for a buy-back. They replied saying it’s escalated and will respond in 10-15 days with options.
same issue as you. Cannot be cleared. I also have documentation from dealership that says there is no fix and issue cannot be cleared. So this is a clear lemon situation. The void warranty is news to me. I had other things that were broken fixed under warranty so not sure if that is true.
very frustrating. Love the car otherwise. Issue is not fixed with ‘22.
same issue as you. Cannot be cleared. I also have documentation from dealership that says there is no fix and issue cannot be cleared. So this is a clear lemon situation. The void warranty is news to me. I had other things that were broken fixed under warranty so not sure if that is true.
very frustrating. Love the car otherwise. Issue is not fixed with ‘22.
The following users liked this post:
JArnald (03-26-2022)
03-26-2022, 12:00 PM
#330
In my case, I was leaving it plugged in after charging due to laziness and to trickle charge the 12V battery.