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Old 08-16-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Palantir
yes, $2.2k for the pleasure of having a working vehicle
Bargain.....I paid $3,200
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:47 PM
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Will that solve the battery problem? Or is it a bandaid for a larger problem?
Old 08-16-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by George718
Bargain.....I paid $3,200
My dealer in NJ told me they charge $3000+ as well to do that replacement.
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Old 08-16-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kenv
Will that solve the battery problem? Or is it a bandaid for a larger problem?
The battery (electronics) itself is a weak link. Replacement doesn’t fix a problem other than the battery electronics died and need to be made new again.

The LiFePOS ain’t your grandfather’s lead acid battery. It’s a battery + onboard electronics. Sadly.
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Old 08-16-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OCNYPORSCHE


I wonder if Porsche can just replace the battery for you. What are they doing for you?
So, what's the problem with the the anti-gravity batteries?

Even if they are 50 ah, for the $800 price, it should be a great deal simce Porsche’s batteries are flowed and not available.

The Porsche battery registration is the same as VW or any other Lithium-Ion battery registration if you, or a shop, has the right tools, which normally they do.

I have put 82,000 miles on my 2019 CS and my battery still going strong without the Porsche’s battery upgrade, but after seeing Porsche's battery fiasco/flop, I want to be prepared for when it comes.

I can do the LiFePOS4 battery registration with my own scanner that have a Lithium battery option.


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Old 08-16-2023, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheACC
So, what's the problem with the the anti-gravity batteries?

Even if they are 50 ah, for the $800 price, it should be a great deal simce Porsche’s batteries are flowed and not available.

The Porsche battery registration is the same as VW or any other Lithium-Ion battery registration if you, or a shop, has the right tools, which normally they do.

I have put 82,000 miles on my 2019 CS and my battery still going strong without the Porsche’s battery upgrade, but after seeing Porsche's battery fiasco/flop, I want to be prepared for when it comes.

I can do the LiFePOS4 battery registration with my own scanner that have a Lithium battery option.
Do antigravity batteries have a LIN connector? I’m no expert but do know that all wires need a home and the vehicle side has a LIN connector. Do AG batteries install with no CEL?
Old 08-16-2023, 01:34 PM
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According to an antigravity rep, its the electronics and the connector that is proprietary to Porsche that prevents them of coming out with an aftermarket alternative.
I am hoping that, at some point, antigravity will obtain the ability to reproduce or purchase the module and connector from the OEM supplier bringing the battery cost to a more reasonable level.
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Old 08-16-2023, 01:49 PM
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Crossing my fingers that my battery lasts until a SANE alternative could be found.
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Old 08-16-2023, 02:41 PM
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The whole thing is infuriating. These stupid batteries are to help the start/stop function that many if not most owners couldn't care less about anyway. How much fuel cost is saved compared to paying $3000+ to replace the batteries even if you don't turn off start/stop every time you get in the vehicle like I do or use sport mode which also turns it off?
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Old 08-16-2023, 05:23 PM
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The math works for the OEM fleet MPG stats.
EPA mandates certain numbers, otherwise penalties are very hefty.
Start/Stop, on paper, helps with these figures. In real world, most of us despise that "feature" and naturally seek a way to disable it.
At the end, the actual cost of this "fuel saving measure" is passed onto the consumer though.
What else is new?
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Old 08-16-2023, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Palantir
The math works for the OEM fleet MPG stats.
EPA mandates certain numbers, otherwise penalties are very hefty.
Start/Stop, on paper, helps with these figures. In real world, most of us despise that "feature" and naturally seek a way to disable it.
At the end, the actual cost of this "fuel saving measure" is passed onto the consumer though.
What else is new?
Agree it’s a product attribute that helps carmakers, and that consumers didn’t ask for. Like other electric product attributes…

Start-stop is the result of teaching to the (emissions regulations) test for carmakers.
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I personally really dislike start/stop AND the minicomputer connected wifi hotspot computer crap. So useless and complicated in every car made after 2015. Just give us Carplay/Android Auto, and that's it.
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Old 08-18-2023, 03:30 PM
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I took the Cayenne in today (2019 Cayenne S) for the battery message. They told me there was a "recall" for it. My receipt says its recall campaign "WMJ9". Hopefully the message doesn't pop back up again...


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Old 08-18-2023, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticFox
I took the Cayenne in today (2019 Cayenne S) for the battery message. They told me there was a "recall" for it. My receipt says its recall campaign "WMJ9". Hopefully the message doesn't pop back up again...

https://www.tsbsearch.com/Porsche/WMJ9
Old 08-19-2023, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by beefchopper
So, those people with the battery error message do not need a new battery, but just need to have their controller/sensor software reprogrammed.

I hope those people with these battery false error messages/issues weren't suckered by their dealers to pay $1000's of dollars for a new battery.

I see how and why the 3rd party companies repairing the LiFePO4 batteries were changing the controller/sensor and reprogramming it.


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