boxsternewbie

disagree. It's far more difficult to judge where the tires are in a cayenne while sitting in the drivers seat compared to a boxster. Boxster being smaller and more nimble was better.

endless_corners

That's what I meant by you will calibrate to the car. After X hours it becomes an extension of your body and you will intuitively know where the car is. Being big it will take some time to remap.

boxsternewbie

true, it's a bigger adjustment than I imagined.

Cuda911

Just a wild-*** guess, since I've never owned a Cayenne, but I am postulating that the tires are on the bottom of the vehicle, one near each corner.

gnat

You know what they say about assuming. See, on the Cayenne the wheels are actually centrally located on the roof. So it really is understandable the difficulties he is having adjusting to his new ride.

mcbit

I've only ever considered the placement of the wheels on the other side of the car to be worth contemplation.

Wisconsin Joe

No, you were just used to where the tires were.

Helpful hint: If you tilt the outside mirror down just a bit, you can see the back tire. It's a pretty big mirror. I can have the mirror high enough to see back, yet low enough to see the tire at the same time.

I drive truck for a living.

A semi handles like a pig (not a P!G, mind you). The trailer will off-track considerably on turns (that's why they put on the "Caution: Wide Turns" sticker that everyone ignores).

So when I have to swing wide to make a turn without taking out the light pole on the corner and some moron scoots up my right side (despite about a bazillion lights blinking along the right side of the truck), can I blame the "poor handling" of the semi as the reason I squashed the moron?

Or is it my lack of awareness?

5CHN3LL

If you dial in a whole bunch of positive camber and get some 5" wide wheels, cornering will stop being a problem.

This guy obviously knows how to car.

yardpro

LOL.........

Sgnitsah

I've a 958-2 GTS.
Had a 986-S in the past
Took the new beast to a POC event at Auto Club infield (lots of turns, one good straight) and was way faster around than the Boxsters in my group.
Track attendant told me my front disks were glowing red at the end of the straight!
I find that I don't drive my 968 at all because the GTS is so damned fun while being more comfortable/practical.
I have the sport line, color matched wheels, so I'm really careful not to clip any curbs!

bweSteve

Hey Sgnitsah, Glad to hear you're enjoying your new ride (well, like me,... still FEELS like new even after a year & 10K+ miles!! 958.1CTT). Also saw you're other note on increasing your boost & reducing your lag too... but my reply here is about AutoX'ing...

I have never owned a Boxster,... but I can say that at the PCA National AutoX last June, my times around the track were indeed better than most all the Boxsters,... and on par with many of the lower hp 911's. But I also have PDCC/PTV. Took 1st (out of 8) in the field of 400hp & above,... but to be honest, I really did not think it was fair to compare my times to the 986's,... since the track was on a airport runway strip. Came in on one 90 degree Taxi entrance, then 50% of the runway length with various degree turns, one heavy 180 degree midway to head back down the full length. The only time I lost boost was in the 180 turn. Not a fair race in my opinion,... so do not think it fair to compare times.

gnat

My experience in my diesel was the opposite as the Boxsters and Caymans wiped the floor with all the other cars. I couldn't touch them, but I was hanging well with unmodified 996s and older from the 911 line. That was with no suspension or chassis goodies too

Our course was very compact so it definitely was suited to the mid-engine handling and the low end torque of my diesel.

It all depends on how the course is laid out of course, but in a properly focused AutoX course the Boxster/Cayman should be king since it is supposed to be about low speed precision rather than power.

bweSteve

Totally agree gnat.

And personally, I really do NOT like to compare cars that have vastly different age gaps. Technology developments over the years have a large impact (but little emphasis), especially when comparing different model types.

It always seems easier & natural to include the "age difference" when comparing within the SAME model line. But as soon as we cross model lines,... folks generalize across all years.

So when my times were better than some of the Boxsters on that elongated airport runway course,.. I also noticed that a lot of folks were using the older Boxsters to beat up on the course. The new ones are,.... still new!! It's only natural for folks to wait till they have some miles racked up, or they get sold/traded hands several times, and then it's easier to justify pushing it on the course.

=S

gnat

I hadn't done my first oil change yet!

But, yeah, I agree that most new owners aren't into doing that kind of stuff

bweSteve

This past summer, I witnessed a club member wrap his fairly new Cayman around a light pole on the AutoX track. Totalled it (all the air bags deployed & it had to be towed away from the site). We all promised not to mention names, nor post any pics,... but the comment was that his call to his wife was going to be tougher than the call to his insurance co.

Got it sidwayz, then it snapped back sidewayz the other way, & couldn't recover in time.

reality check.