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Old 03-03-2016 | 06:45 PM
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I will admit to calling in the 996 calvary. It was just too humorous for those guys to miss out on and they know how to wake up a thread
well that's not fair, I would not have hit the curb either in a 996
Old 03-03-2016 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by John Welch.
Your diagram is exactly how everybody here in VT takes a left turn. They start right at the crosswalk and hit the apex at 45 degrees rather than moving into the intersection first and then turning left.

I hope your drawing isn't accurate. If it is, there's no real way to take that turn and staying in the left lane without hitting the curb.
I was starting to think it was a recent thing just in my area.
There isn't a day that goes by where someone making a left turn doesn't come within inches of taking off my front bumper...or having to hit the brakes while coming up to an intersection because the idiot is already going across my lane. I'm at the point I lay on the horn and hold my ground; maybe next time they'll think twice.

I don't know if it's stupidity, laziness or a combination of both but it's like a fad that started about two years ago.
Old 03-03-2016 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
well that's not fair, I would not have hit the curb either in a 996
Based on the evidence provided I'm not sure about that.

Only difference is that at the cost of a 996 it probably would have been a total loss

BTW, my diesel (no air, no pasm, no ptv, no pdcc) was out performing the 996s the day I took it to the AutoX. Awesome vehicles, but definitely a different driving mindset.

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I was starting to think it was a recent thing just in my area.
There isn't a day that goes by where someone making a left turn doesn't come within inches of taking off my front bumper...or having to hit the brakes while coming up to an intersection because the idiot is already going across my lane. I'm at the point I lay on the horn and hold my ground; maybe next time they'll think twice.

I don't know if it's stupidity, laziness or a combination of both but it's like a fad that started about two years ago.
Yeah definitely seems to be getting bad. In my area they will cut the corner so bad that they'll cut through your left turn lane. God forbid you are actually stopped at the line in said lane, then they get all pissed off and provide rude gestures for being in their way
Old 03-03-2016 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
whoa whoa whoa.... Macan doesn't handle significantly better than the Cayenne and the Cayenne has more space in the rear seats so if you're buying a Porsche SUV to actually use the rear seats the Cayenne is the better vehicle.

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And the Macan tows 3,500 less pounds than Cayenne.
Disagree and agree. The Macan does handle better. Significantly? I guess that's subjective, but it's lower and lighter, and when I drove it, I felt it handled twisty roads much better than our CD.

But you are correct about the seating capacity and tow capacity. So if you need to haul more stuff - inside our out - get the Cayenne, no question. If you don't need quite that much space, but more than a 911 or 981, get the Macan and enjoy more sportiness.

But if you really need capacity, get a truck.

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And the Cayenne Turbo is faster than the Macan Turbo. And the Macan Turbo is maxed out, running 27 PSI through that turbo v6, while the Cayenne Turbo is only at 9psi on it's turbo v8
But they are SUV/CUVs. Who cares how fast a utility vehicle goes? Sure, the CTT is faster than the MT. So what? Are you really racing them against each other? Are you planning on having a delivery race to see how fast you can get your crap from point A to point B? And if you load the CTT to it's max and the MT to its max, will the CTT still be faster? If you're towing 7700# behind the CTT and 4XXX (whatever it is) behind the MT, will the CTT still be faster? I just laugh when everyone talks about how fast the CTT is. Who cares? If you want fast, get the sports car! If you want utility, speed becomes a much, much less important factor.

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And Macan owners get to hear "Aww, you couldn't afford the Cayenne?" just like the Boxster owners get to hear about 911's no matter how many times you tell them "IT HANDLES BETTER!!!!!"
First, no one's ever said that to me about the Boxster. But if they do, I just laugh at them, because if they have to put someone down for not being able to spend as much money as they can, they have other issues. We bought the cars we wanted. Period. And I don't give a rat's *** what some insecure idiot says I can or can't afford!

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Old 03-03-2016 | 10:29 PM
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I think you seriously misunderstood the functions !
I use a Cayenne Turbo to tow a Boxster to the track, ..not the opposite !

And I REALLY appreciate the CTT to the top, when we tow our boat (6'000 pounds), whatever if the road goes up, or there is the need for braking !
(As it would be able to stop a freight train.)
Old 03-03-2016 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh
Disagree and agree. The Macan does handle better. Significantly? I guess that's subjective, but it's lower and lighter, and when I drove it, I felt it handled twisty roads much better than our CD.

But you are correct about the seating capacity and two capacity. So if you need to haul more stuff - inside our out - get the Cayenne, no question. If you don't need quite that much space, but more than a 911 or 981, get the Macan and enjoy more sportiness.

But if you really need capacity, get a truck.

But they are SUV/CUVs. Who cares how fast a utility vehicle goes? Sure, the CTT is faster than the MT. So what? Are you really racing them against each other? Are you planning on having a delivery race to see how fast you can get your crap from point A to point B? And if you load the CTT to it's max and the MT to its max, will the CTT still be faster? If you're towing 7700# behind the CTT and 4XXX (whatever it is) behind the MT, will the CTT still be faster? I just laugh when everyone talks about how fast the CTT is. Who cares? If you want fast, get the sports car! If you want utility, speed becomes a much, much less important factor.



First, no one's ever said that to me about the Boxster. But if they do, I just laugh at them, because if they have to put someone down for not being able to spend as much money as they can, they have other issues. We bought the cars we wanted. Period. And I don't give a rat's *** what some insecure idiot says I can or can't afford!
I need a people mover, not a truck. Cayenne Turbo is the best people mover Porsche makes.

I did not notice the difference in handling between the Macan Turbo and the Cayenne Turbo, but that's coming from a Boxster. Now, if I took them both to the track, who knows, maybe I would, but the test drives they felt the same. Boxster is a whole other story, much better than either, even on city streets.

Who cares how fast? How fast does anyone need to go? Speed limit is 60, right?

Yes, I have heard it many times in the Boxster. If I had a dollar every time I heard "Couldn't afford a 911?" I'd have several months of payments for this Cayenne Turbo. Funny thing is they usually don't even own a Porsche.
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Originally Posted by 19psi
I was starting to think it was a recent thing just in my area.
There isn't a day that goes by where someone making a left turn doesn't come within inches of taking off my front bumper...or having to hit the brakes while coming up to an intersection because the idiot is already going across my lane. I'm at the point I lay on the horn and hold my ground; maybe next time they'll think twice.

I don't know if it's stupidity, laziness or a combination of both but it's like a fad that started about two years ago.
Probably moved to Indiana from NJ - it's been like that here for decades..
Old 03-03-2016 | 11:47 PM
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Skiahh,... you had to know that if you get up on your soapbox like this,... it's gonna be picked apart.... (light heartedly I must add)

Originally Posted by skiahh
.... Who cares how fast a utility vehicle goes? Sure, the CTT is faster than the MT. So what? Are you really racing them against each other?
Yes we ARE racing them against each other. PCA AutoX classifications have them in the same S1 & P1 classes.
So YES, those of us who push these vehicles to their limits {for fun!}, do care how fast they are, and how well they handle.
In fact, at PCA Nationals, all 400 hp & above SUV's run against each other. And yes, having PDCC/PTV in a 3 yr old CTT made all the difference. I was up against brand new MT's, GTS', & non-PDCC CTT's. Took 1st place. AND I probably spent $25k less than a new MT. Just sayin'

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... And if you load the CTT to it's max and the MT to its max, will the CTT still be faster?
Yes it will.

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... If you're towing 7700# behind the CTT and 4XXX (whatever it is) behind the MT, will the CTT still be faster?
Yes it will.

My how these threads go off topic from the orig post. But it's all good fun.
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Old 03-04-2016 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gnat
I will admit to calling in the 996 calvary. It was just too humorous for those guys to miss out on and they know how to wake up a thread
Solve the problem by keeping one each in the stable...


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Originally Posted by eidolon
Solve the problem by keeping one each in the stable...
I find it interesting that there is a fair amount of over lap between the two groups. Our pair is my 958d and her 01 C4 Coupe.
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Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
I need a people mover, not a truck. Cayenne Turbo is the best people mover Porsche makes.
Ammm... once again, we may disagree. If it's strictly people, the Panamera Turbo is a better option than the Cayenne Turbo. Handles better, too!

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Skiahh,... you had to know that if you get up on your soapbox like this,... it's gonna be picked apart.... (light heartedly I must add)
I would expect nothing less!

Originally Posted by bweSteve
Yes we ARE racing them against each other. PCA AutoX classifications have them in the same S1 & P1 classes.
So YES, those of us who push these vehicles to their limits {for fun!}, do care how fast they are, and how well they handle.
In fact, at PCA Nationals, all 400 hp & above SUV's run against each other. And yes, having PDCC/PTV in a 3 yr old CTT made all the difference. I was up against brand new MT's, GTS', & non-PDCC CTT's. Took 1st place. AND I probably spent $25k less than a new MT. Just sayin'
I stand corrected, but it still seems crazy to me. But I guess that's why Porsche can make and sell vehicles like the CTT for crazy dollars!


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... If you're towing 7700# behind the CTT and 4XXX (whatever it is) behind the MT, will the CTT still be faster?


Yes it will.

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Fine. I'll give you the speed, but raise you capacity... and probably mpg!

(By the way, there's an SUV in that trailer, along with household goods!)


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Originally Posted by eidolon
Solve the problem by keeping one each in the stable...


That was considered, and both the vehicles were available, but after several weeks of not driving the Boxster I decided it was not worth keeping a Porsche I would only drive a few dozen miles a month. I do not want a garage queen, I'm not at Jay Leno's point in life where I can have a warehouse of cars I drive once a year.


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Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
That was considered, and both the vehicles were available, but after several weeks of not driving the Boxster I decided it was not worth keeping a Porsche I would only drive a few dozen miles a month. I do not want a garage queen, I'm not at Jay Leno's point in life where I can have a warehouse of cars I drive once a year.


The season determines which one stays garaged. I drive the 957 in the fall and winter and the 996 in the spring and summer...
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Originally Posted by eidolon
The season determines which one stays garaged. I drive the 957 in the fall and winter and the 996 in the spring and summer...
with two young children and third in the near future the seasons do not determine which stays garaged anymore
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Hitting an inside curb isn't a handling issue!


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