Mrak47

Hello! So I found coolant leaking from the front of the motor, a good amount was pooling under the car. Looked like the plastic elbows were getting old and about to give out. It definitely going to be an engine out service, P3 Autokräfte a local Porsche shop has quoted nearly 14k for Pinning the Cam gears, welding on the coolant pipes and replacing various other hoses. It is stated that this estimate may change because they need to look at the labor over lap.

I've got a couple other quotes but they have not seen the car however I was pretty thorough with the details of what needed to be done. Their pricing about 50% less than that quote.

What are some prices you've seen for this type of work? Any help with be so appreciated!

eaks

I paid about 15k cdn for my engine out which replaced pretty much everything (including my provided clutch/flywheel/ect). I was unable to get the cams pinned as I was in a hurry and none of the shops I called had the cam tools for the 997tt..

I would have much preferred to pay a few extra thousand and have thr cams taken care of but if I have issues I will deal with it then.. The cams aren't typically a catastrophic failure unlike thr coolant lines..

The pricing is hard to say ad you would need a breakdown of what's including.. It sounds like the first shop is most likely replacing everything whereas the other shops may only be budgeting the required parts and not necessarily everything..

The price doesn't seem too crazy to me and if the shop has done this exact work previously they should know what to expect and not cut corners

Ruskiy

15k seems to be in line with what I’m seeing people post for a job like that.

mfm3

See this thread. It's two years old, but has detailed info.

Engine out service including pinning coolant lines, pinning cams, replacing clutch and other stuff

moxie (SF)

$14k sounds reasonable to me for all the work that's involved, especially if that includes all new seals and hoses. That adds up quickly.

PowderJunkie

Man these prices are all over. Speed Sport Tuning (CT) quoted me 15K to drop the engine and trans, weld coolant lines, and replace the clutch. I usually buy my own parts so I'm not sure how much that lowers the cost.

I honestly want to tackle this myself with some help, mostly to learn and say I did it.

Hoping I can rent a lift which will make it much easier.

Mrak47

Final price is $16,500 seems inflated dealer is at roughly 7k with out cams being finished.

moxie (SF)

If you lived in Nor Cal, I would have come over and helped. Do it! It's rewarding and not as hard as you think

moxie (SF)

Having done all the work myself, this seems like a fair price (assuming you are replacing all seals, plastic elbows, pinning cams and coolant lines, hoses, turbo water lines, and water pump). it's a big body of work and you have a I strip the engine down a good deal to do it right.

That being said, if you have any mechanical abilities, do it yourself!

eaks

Moxie,

Where did you get the cam tools from? Did you rent them or did you end up buying a set?

PowderJunkie

Appreciate the encouragement!

I'm really looking forward to it, honestly. It's just a question of can I rent a lift or do I try it on QJ. I need to start ordering parts and getting stuff together so it can come out one weekend and back in the next.

PowderJunkie

Appreciate the encouragement!

I'm really looking forward to it, honestly. It's just a question of can I rent a lift or do I try it on QJ. I need to start ordering parts and getting stuff together so it can come out one weekend and back in the next.

harlanmott3

Not to discourage at all, I loved doing this and I would 1000% encourage anyone with even a little desire to do it as well. Was a great way to learn my car, plus it does feel great to say I did it myself. Now having said that...

You would have to move really fast as a first time engine pull and amateur mechanic to do it in 2 weekends. I know I was going slow as I wasn't in a rush at all but it took me several months from start to finish. I think it took me most of the first weekend just to get the engine lowered, and another full weekend to get it back up and in. The rest of those months was tear down, replacement, waiting on parts (even though I ordered "everything" ahead of time), and cleaning, double checking everything going back together, torque to spec and double check again, etc. I wouldn't want to do it in 2 weekends even now that I've done it.

FYI, lots of people use quickjacks to do the engine out. I think it needs an extension, I looked into it but in the end did it without the quickjacks. Just extra tall jack stands (for a motor home) and the hf table.

saabin

^ Agree 100%

Mine was a COVID project and I think the car was down for about 7 weeks total. Certainly didn’t work on it all weekend each time, but each of the 7 weeks I did something. I probably spent at least 2 to 3 of those weekends cleaning everything.

PowderJunkie

Fair, to clarify it will be many weeks. My goal is to get the engine actually out in one weekend, which I think is doable. I'm not doing this along but have an experienced mechanic helping me out.

Then a few weeks getting everything cleaned and sorted out.

Put back in should also really only be 1 weekend with a reliable, knowledgeable friend.