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Old 07-21-2019, 05:13 PM
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I'm in love with this one on AT, Can't swing it right now till I lighten my load of other toys.
But, other the Carfax (which looks clean), how can I get more info.
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Originally Posted by mikes70
I'm in love with this one on AT, Can't swing it right now till I lighten my load of other toys.
But, other the Carfax (which looks clean), how can I get more info.
WP0AC29998S792089
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Appears to have potential.
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Originally Posted by mikes70
I'm in love with this one on AT, Can't swing it right now till I lighten my load of other toys.
But, other the Carfax (which looks clean), how can I get more info.
WP0AC29998S792089
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

Front and rear pads at 2,100 miles...
Hubs, bearings, rear pads again and tires at 3,000 miles...
rear pads again at 4,300 miles...

Looks like maybe a fair bit of track time (with psm on?) in the early days?
Or just something like noisy brakes that the owner kept complaining about?

Probably reflected in the price either way, and looks like it is CPO as well.
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If you’re interested ask Cgfen, he knows that car. Range 1, 2 and a few 3 over revs. Chip/gash missing out of the left front caliper. Scratches/mars on the back of the seats where they contacted the roll cage. Otherwise good condition. Wheels OE in silver versus orange. Was previously for sale at Autokennel with LWBs. Google the VIN. Porsche of Irvine has treated me well, have a SA I’d recommend.

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Old 07-23-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Front and rear pads at 2,100 miles...
Hubs, bearings, rear pads again and tires at 3,000 miles...
rear pads again at 4,300 miles...

Looks like maybe a fair bit of track time (with psm on?) in the early days?
Or just something like noisy brakes that the owner kept complaining about?

Probably reflected in the price either way, and looks like it is CPO as well.
Definately do not mind one with track time, as this will not be a garage item.


Originally Posted by Bgoldey
If you’re interested ask Cgfen, he knows that car. Range 1, 2 and a few 3 over revs. Chip/gash missing out of the left front caliper. Scratches/mars on the back of the seats where they contacted the roll cage. Otherwise good condition. Wheels OE in silver versus orange. Was previously for sale at Autokennel with LWBs. Google the VIN. Porsche of Irvine has treated me well, have a SA I’d recommend.
Is Cgfen on here?
I know just enough about Range revs to get into trouble, 1=no bigge, 2=not that big of deal, 3=starting to get concerned....etc etc...but doesn't something like "how long ago" play into the engine equation?
How did you see the chip/gash out of the LF caliper?
Like the wheels in silver, didn't want to clone FLT6SPD's car LOL as were both in the same town.
Not sure how the timing will work in all of this as i do have to sell my 997.2 C2S (6spd with navy blue interior and 29k) and free up some cash. But it is in my "GT3" price range, timing....

Google the VIN, i always forget about that.
LWBs, versus whats in there now (sofa's)? with carbons being the 3rd?(or are carbon's LWB's)
Good to know about P of Irvine, following the carfax report had me a little confused on how it ended up there and CPO'd (muy bueno)
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Originally Posted by mikes70
Definately do not mind one with track time, as this will not be a garage item.



Is Cgfen on here?
I know just enough about Range revs to get into trouble, 1=no bigge, 2=not that big of deal, 3=starting to get concerned....etc etc...but doesn't something like "how long ago" play into the engine equation?
How did you see the chip/gash out of the LF caliper?
Like the wheels in silver, didn't want to clone FLT6SPD's car LOL as were both in the same town.
Not sure how the timing will work in all of this as i do have to sell my 997.2 C2S (6spd with navy blue interior and 29k) and free up some cash. But it is in my "GT3" price range, timing....

Google the VIN, i always forget about that.
LWBs, versus whats in there now (sofa's)? with carbons being the 3rd?(or are carbon's LWB's)
Good to know about P of Irvine, following the carfax report had me a little confused on how it ended up there and CPO'd (muy bueno)
I highly recommend watching this video to learn more about over revs. But from my understanding, an over rev in the higher ranges must have been at least 250 hours ago in order for them to certify it. So if the over rev happened at 250 hours and you are now at 500 hours, then you should be ok.

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Old 07-23-2019, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgoldey
If you’re interested ask Cgfen, he knows that car. Range 1, 2 and a few 3 over revs. Chip/gash missing out of the left front caliper. Scratches/mars on the back of the seats where they contacted the roll cage. Otherwise good condition. Wheels OE in silver versus orange. Was previously for sale at Autokennel with LWBs. Google the VIN. Porsche of Irvine has treated me well, have a SA I’d recommend.
yup, looks like it had a full cage, buckets, and a bunch of other mods, which are detailed by the previous seller along with history, over-rev's, etc. here:
https://germancarsforsaleblog.com/20...-911-gt3-rs-3/

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2008 Porsche 997 GT3 RS Coupe
Fresh Clutch and Limited Slip Diff.
Original Paint/Welded Coolant Pipes

VIN # WP0AC29998S792089
20,400 Miles
Artic Silver Metallic w/Orange Accents on Black Leather
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Clean and Clear California Title
PCA Member Owned
Original Porsche MSRP/Window Sticker
Original Paint/Clean Carfax

When Porsche finally started delivering the GT3s to the U.S. in 2004, we were ecstatic. However, the big question was when/if we would get the GT3 RS. This pinnacle of development for the famed Mezger motor was on every Porschephile's wish list. Finally, for the 997 model, Porsche announced they would finally grant our wish. However, only 413 RS models were delivered to the U.S. for 2007 and 2008. The RS is a more distilled version of the standard GT3. It is lighter and faster. More importantly, it provides an even further connected feel between the driver and the road. Many enthusiasts have found that this RS was the last of the pure analog driver's 911s that was not just an all-out race car, but something you could use on the street. Silver with the orange trim was reported as the rarest production color.

This RS was built on August 31st, 2007 and sold new by New Country Porsche of Greenwich, CT on September 18th, 2007. It was ordered with the following additional factory options:

Arctic Silver Metallic
Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
Wheels Painted Silver
Sport Chrono Package
Floor Mats in Interior Color
Rear Center Console Painted to Match Exterior Color

The first owner only had the car for a couple years/900-miles. So, he traded it back to the dealer and it was then sold to an active PCA member based in Ohio on February 5th, 2010. This next owner exclusively serviced the car at his local Porsche dealer. Furthermore, he participated in PCA Driver’s Education schools/events. This GT3 RS was never abused/damaged, always garaged, and frequently serviced. Highlights of significant maintenance and enhancements include:

Clear bra front of car, mirrors, and front of rear fenders
DAS Sport bolt-in B-hoop roll bar (bolts in factory mount locations)
Rear adjustable TPC Cup toe links
Adjustable front lower control arms
Regular/frequent oil, brake, and minor services
Halon fire extinguisher with Brey Krause mount
Front wheel bearings replaced (@3k-miles on 9/10)
Wevo SS motor mounts (@7k-miles on 9/11)
Guards limited slip rear differential & Motorsports clutch pack (@4k-miles on 11/10)
Upgraded suspension (@4k-miles on 11/10)
Revalving shocks by TPC
Front/rear adjustable sway bars
Corner balance/alignment
Transmission mounts
Major service (@7k-miles on 4/12)
Oil, air, cabin filters
Drive belts
Spark plugs
Re-epoxy (preventative) all external coolant passages by Porsche (@8k-miles on 9/12)
Porsche 4.0L Intake & exhaust manifolds (@10k-miles on 3/13)
Rear main seal, shift cable, and clutch kit (@10k-miles on 5/13)

This owner traded the RS in to his local dealer. It was then serviced once more and sold to the current Orange County, California owner on September 25th, 2013 with 11k-miles. Before purchasing, he had the local Porsche dealer do a pre-purchase inspection and they found the car to be in fantastic condition. This owner is also a long time PCA enthusiast who is very active in the local Porsche scene. I’ve known him personally for many years and he is incredibly fastidious about maintenance. He primarily used two of the top Orange County independent Porsche specialists for service: Vision Motorsports and Hergesheimer Motorsports. Highlights of his services include the following:

Frequent oil services
Wheel studs with steel lug nuts
Replace TPMS sensors (@11k-miles on 11/13)
Welded coolant pipes/replaced water hoses (@14k-miles on 8/14)
Front brake pads and rotors (@14k-miles on 8/14)
Rebuild differential/new LSD clutch pack (@15k-miles on 12/14)
Suspension upgrades by GMG (@16k-miles on 7/15)
Front sway bar drop links
Front and rear GMG hollow sway bars with bushings
GMG front adjustable thrust arm bushings





It is clear, by the tens of thousands of dollars invested, that the prior owners really enjoyed and cared-for this GT3. We have the complete service history with all receipts going back to new.

The exterior of this GT3 RS looks fantastic with minimal signs of use. The paint is original and verified with a paint meter (see pics). There are some rock chips on the lower front part of the rear fenders, but it appears that it is mostly on the clear bra. The front plastic sacrificial spoiler lip shows some typical damage, however, a brand new one is included with the car. The wheels are in good shape and have just slight curb rash on one wheel (see pic). They are wearing Bridgestone RE-71R tires with just under half-life. The front brakes are new and the rear brakes are at about half-life. The rotors have no lips.

The interior is equally as nice and looks hardly used. This RS comes with the stock sport seats (see pic – not installed). The installed factory GT2 carbon fiber airbag seats are available for an additional fee. Both pairs of seats look near new with no tears or excessive bolster wear. The headliner, carpet, and door panels look new. The dash has no cracks or other blemishes. All the gauges work. All the buttons, windows, A/C, lights, and radio function properly. The car is pre-wired for a Valentine-One radar detector. Also, the radio is wired to connect to an iPhone.

An over-rev/DME report was run both when the current owner purchased the car as well as when he brought it to us to sell. The last registered rev was recorded at 12k-miles/223 hours ago. The report is excellent and reads total combined time for the life of the engine at each level: (1) 1.30 seconds (2) 0.48 seconds (3) 0.15 seconds (4) 0.0 seconds (5) 0.0 seconds (6) 0.0 seconds After review by several Porsche experts/engine builders, these numbers are insignificant and the motor is healthy.

This RS drives fantastic. It starts easily with no excessive smoking. It has a great sound with a bit deeper growl and a wonderful whine through the higher RPMs without any droning. The throttle response is fantastic and it pulls hard through all the gears. The handling is superb. It has a much more planted feeling that inspires confidence, yet it is still supple enough to not beat you up on normal street use. The brakes have a wonderful bite with no fading or pulling. Shifting is very smooth and precise with no slipping or grinding. This example isn’t just a raw race car for the street, but a pure joy to drive on the local backroads.

California registration is current through October of 2019 and it passes CA smog/emissions tests with no issues.

This GT3 RS comes with the owner/s manuals, extra key, original window sticker, most service records from new, flat repair kit, and tool kit.

*The car comes with the standard sport seats (see pic). The installed GT2 seats are available for an additional fee. The extra set of OZ wheels are available for an additional fee.





Old 07-23-2019, 06:08 PM
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I curious as to what "no excessive smoking" means?
I also saw that on the comments on the bottom of this article/review's page.

None the less, I am interested.

Need to unload a nice 911 that i already have. May try after i get back from Hawaii on the 10th of Aug.
It was for sale at AK in may with no takers, curious as to why?

I think what bmwtye had said on this thread (or another in this subforum) about the market slowing on these cars.

Boise, congrats on your purchase. I've been to C&C with Mike on a few occasions and his cars are nice nice....You gotta a gem. Enjoy in good health.
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Originally Posted by mikes70
I curious as to what "no excessive smoking" means?
I also saw that on the comments on the bottom of this article/review's page.

None the less, I am interested.

Need to unload a nice 911 that i already have. May try after i get back from Hawaii on the 10th of Aug.
It was for sale at AK in may with no takers, curious as to why?

I think what bmwtye had said on this thread (or another in this subforum) about the market slowing on these cars.

Boise, congrats on your purchase. I've been to C&C with Mike on a few occasions and his cars are nice nice....You gotta a gem. Enjoy in good health.
Small amount of white smoke on startup is common on 997 gt cars. Mine does a little time to time, nothing to be worried about.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
I highly recommend watching this video to learn more about over revs. But from my understanding, an over rev in the higher ranges must have been at least 250 hours ago in order for them to certify it. So if the over rev happened at 250 hours and you are now at 500 hours, then you should be ok.
I've seen that vid a while back. Probably should revisit since i wouldn't pass the test if you were to ask me a few DME report questions. I did see that the overrev's appear to be minor. But again, what does "no excessive smoking" mean?....to be continued

My 997 does it after a spirited run or long drive a day or few later...i believe it's AOS related, but it is inconsistent...

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Old 07-23-2019, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes70
I've seen that vid a while back. Probably should revisit since i wouldn't pass the test if you were to ask me a few DME report questions. I did see that the overrev's appear to be minor. But again, what does "no excessive smoking" mean?....to be continued

My 997 does it after a spirited run or long drive a day or few later...i believe it's AOS related, but it is inconsistent...
If your GT3 sits for a couple of days, you will get smoke. More info here from both Mooty and Sharkwerks.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...n-startup.html
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I looked at the RS at Porsche of Irvine a few weeks ago. No smoke on start up for me. My 997.1 GT3 smoked on start occasionally. Didn’t really dig into it that deeply but it looked like a nice car. My only observation was the scratch on the caliper/seat backs. My guess was some track time based on the cage/over rev report. Google vin search revealed the info above.

After I purchased my 997TTS (out of warranty) the rear wing actuator system failed. Porsche of Irvine covered the cost of repair.

Highly recommend SA Michael Ulibarri 949.668.6342.
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Originally Posted by Bgoldey
I looked at the RS at Porsche of Irvine a few weeks ago. No smoke on start up for me. My 997.1 GT3 smoked on start occasionally. Didn’t really dig into it that deeply but it looked like a nice car. My only observation was the scratch on the caliper/seat backs. My guess was some track time based on the cage/over rev report. Google vin search revealed the info above.

After I purchased my 997TTS (out of warranty) the rear wing actuator system failed. Porsche of Irvine covered the cost of repair.

Highly recommend SA Michael Ulibarri 949.668.6342.
Thanx for the info. I really really like this car. A couple/few minor (overall) imperfections do not bother me.
Once again, thanx for your input. Might call in am. fingers crossed imogee
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This aqua blue just popped up on the market.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...aff=share_text
gorgeous!
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my advice for buying - be ready to pull the trigger, like, now (or at least secure w/down payment if you plan to ppi the car)

buy

enjoy

if ur contingent on selling ur current ride - post it for sale last week


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