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Old 10-19-2023, 01:31 PM
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^ I think that was a great car and I believe only 2 owners.
Old 10-19-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick@PAEuros
^ I think that was a great car and I believe only 2 owners.
It was indeed a beautiful spec. Only missing FAL.
Old 10-19-2023, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
It was indeed a beautiful spec. Only missing FAL.
I been watching the market for about 10 years on 997 GT cars and FAL has made in my observations pretty much no difference in resale value. The system was Porsche’s first attempt at a front axle lift and the system certainly isn’t perfect some say it’s quite crude. Malfunctions are very common from faulty pressure switches (don’t believe this is a permanent fix as they may fail again) or sometimes the pump fails and the whole system needs to be replaced. I’ve seen some guys just take the whole system out as it was too much trouble for them. The FAL makes a ton of difference for 991’s in terms of resale as the systems they use are more reliable.

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Old 10-19-2023, 02:17 PM
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I agree on pricing Rapid and actually would prefer one without FAL because of all the known issues.
Old 10-19-2023, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
I been watching the market for about 10 years on 997 GT cars and FAL has made in my observations pretty much no difference in resale value. The system was Porsche’s first attempt at a front axle lift and the system certainly isn’t perfect some say it’s quite crude. Malfunctions are very common from faulty pressure switches (don’t believe this is a permanent fix as they may fail again) or sometimes the pump fails and the whole system needs to be replaced. I’ve seen some guys just take the whole system out as it was too much trouble for them. The FAL makes a ton of difference for 991’s in terms of resale as the systems they use are more reliable.
Your points are all valid but for me, FAL was and is a must-have. I can't stand having the front splitter scraping every driveway entrance. They are replaceable for relatively cheap, but realistically you're not going to replace every time you tear it up so you end up having a scratched up splitter most of the time. Once I realized fixing the most common FAL failure, the 13 BAR switch, takes less time and just and same money than a dealer oil change, I stopped worrying about potential failures. The system may not be perfect but it works.
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Old 10-19-2023, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
Your points are all valid but for me, FAL was and is a must-have. I can't stand having the front splitter scraping every driveway entrance. They are replaceable for relatively cheap, but realistically you're not going to replace every time you tear it up so you end up having a scratched up splitter most of the time. Once I realized fixing the most common FAL failure, the 13 BAR switch, takes less time and just and same money than a dealer oil change, I stopped worrying about potential failures. The system may not be perfect but it works.
Understood. Some guys have to have FAL as their garage is inaccessible without it. Which is why when I’ve looked for houses I’ve immediately turned some down as the garage was inaccessible for low cars and no way to make it work. Also scraping the front lip is still not a pleasant thing to do even though I know it’s a wear item. Also like you said you’re not gonna replace it every time it gets a scuff. Though I have noticed since moving my lower Porsche’s out of California to Massachusetts that I rarely scrape the front of them anymore. Way less inclines here, but each state is different.
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Old 10-19-2023, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
The Silver 997.2 listed by High Marques for $200k is now sold. That was quick.

https://www.highmarques.com/listings...rsche-911-gt3/
Maybe a dealer to dealer swap. It's one way to get prices increased. Shows a $200,000 sold sales price for a car that well.....
Old 10-19-2023, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
Your points are all valid but for me, FAL was and is a must-have. I can't stand having the front splitter scraping every driveway entrance. They are replaceable for relatively cheap, but realistically you're not going to replace every time you tear it up so you end up having a scratched up splitter most of the time. Once I realized fixing the most common FAL failure, the 13 BAR switch, takes less time and just and same money than a dealer oil change, I stopped worrying about potential failures. The system may not be perfect but it works.
I think it just shows how many people truly drive their 997s to unknown places, otherwise we’d see it affect the price more. I rarely use FAL but when I do, I “really” need it… few months ago I went golfing at a private ranch in Oregon called Silvies and I would have torn the whole bumper off if I didn’t have it
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FAL is for sissies.
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Old 10-19-2023, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
FAL is for sissies.
I mean w/500 horsepower we should all be able to do wheelies over bumps
Old 10-19-2023, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
FAL is for sissies.
says every owner without FAL, lol
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Old 10-20-2023, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonderdan
I mean w/500 horsepower we should all be able to do wheelies over bumps
Exactly.
Old 10-20-2023, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonderdan
I mean w/500 horsepower we should all be able to do wheelies over bumps
https://www.motortrend.com/news/pors...info-pictures/

Old 10-20-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RAudi Driver
Maybe a dealer to dealer swap. It's one way to get prices increased. Shows a $200,000 sold sales price for a car that well.....
curious why you think that. $200k for a 11k mile super high MSRP .2 GT3 seems in line with recent market. Similar miles/MSRP to the red one Doug had recently which also sold quickly for the same price.
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A poster on here had to basically engineer/build a new driveway after foregoing FAL.
It can be a "must have option" depending on where you live.

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