GT3DE

I did a 2:18 IN A REGULAR gt3, not an RS. Give me a 4.0 with blues, I got your 14, easily in January.

BBMGT3

Thats odd - I didn't find the timing to be difficult. Usually with a manual tranny you time the clutch application with the rhythm of the shifter itself (which takes a few fractions of a second), so, as you said, you're slower. As soon as you step into the Cup and get the instant BANG, your clutch application almost immediately become more synchronized and direct. Took me half a lap anyway to start getting it to feel right. Maybe easier for some than others.

Edit: Getting the auto-blipper set up right makes a MASSIVE difference.

As for the lap times...

GT3RS4.0 will be faster than 996 Cup, or very, very close. On slicks it will be faster. 3.8RS on slicks will be pretty close.

Any properly driven 997 Cup is quicker than any road GT3 in any configuration, slicks or otherwise. I would point out that there is such a huge spread of ability in the 997 cups, that even someone who is a pro, and "quick" would be 1.5s off the top SuperCup guys.

As for fiats... what to say. The scuderia is a lovely car, friend has one, they are quite exciting. But while Ferrari has a stronger racing pedigree these days, Porsche still build the better "gateway" car, the GT3.

NJ-GT

Says who? your obsolote iPhone 3gs and the erratic Larry's Lap Timer?

I was doing 19s and 20s and passing you with ease, your 18s are an illusion.

I think regular 3.8 GT3 works the same for lap times as 3.8GT3RS at Sebring. 2nd gear at T3, T7, T10, T13, T16

Put real timing equipment in your car.

Nick Wong

Those guys at AI also did the radar detector in my car. It's in their archived projects.

wanna911

And I'm not mocking you, that was seriously funny. One thing about you, you sure aren't afraid to walk the walk.




I don't think Peter is 9 seconds off the pace of his car on slicks. I do think a 996 Cup can do 2:10-2:11, dunno about a 3.8 RS. That's what only 3 seconds slower than a 2011 cup?

You guys do know the 2010+ Cups are hitting over 160 mph at Road Atlanta with no telling how much wing in it. Almost 150 on the front straight and 130 between 5 and 6. Even with some power shifting, I doubt the 3.8's will get that high.

I don't think the street cars have enough giddy up to stay in that range. Low torque NA powerband suffers the most from a manual shifter compared to a sequential. That car is barely slower than mine in a straight line. On longer tracks like Sebring Road Atlanta, you will not brake as fast, corner as fast or accelerate as fast.

The acceleration from those tiny tilton clutches is astounding. Throwing on some slicks in a full weight manual street car is not going to get you within a couple of seconds of the cups.

IMO


BTW Rad are you talking about the event at which you will be coming in at a highest of 2nd place?

Nizer

Exactly.

DRPM

So after all that being said above - "ANY 4.0's FOR SALE"?

Veloce Raptor

First point: of course you didn't I have watched your videos, you are a very talented driver. Most who have taken up the 7 Cups are not as talented, hence my point. Which is why early on, 7 trannies were being replaced almost as frequently as tires....and which is why the auto blipper came into being.

Well driven fresh 6 Cup on sticker Blues will hit 2:10 at Sebring in the right hands on the right day.

+1, Later 7 Cups are MUCH faster than early ones, as you say, and there is no way any street car will keep up. Additionally, there is much to be said for a fully caged, purpose built race car with full fire suppression making it more comfortable to really push...

Larryf

Back on point: only one at Carlsen that is stealer priced. This other lap time smack talk can be started in a new thread..........

TRAKCAR

Sell me yours.

DRPM

thanks Larry

I see there is still for sale one in Toronto Ontario at Pfaff for a mere $255,000.00

http://www.pfaffporsche.com/preowned...92666/info.php

TRAKCAR

Thanks.
BTW, do you really need a GT2RS and a 4.0RS with the Fiat arriving and all?

Nizer

Relax Peter. When 991 GT3 RS comes out people will be crying about getting walked in their RS 4.0 just like the 3.8 guys are now. Then you'll be able to find one at a proper price.

TRAKCAR

Funny....

Already called Jeff. No go. Wish I has some dirt of Jeff so I could blackmail him out of my 4.0..

DRPM

I'll have to show that "iron list" (below) to my wife to help her understand my having 2 x P cars is more than reasonable.
Current Iron:
'12 Aston Martin V12 Vantage
'11 GT2RS
'11 GT3RS 4.0
'10 Cayman S Interseries Martini Racing Livery
'09 430 Scud
'08 RS4 Cab