jealva

I currently have a 2010 997.2 GT3 and a '98 993 C2S. I only track the GT3.

cobrien

Thanks!! I got the GT3, RS, and 4.0 from Napleton Porsche in Westmont. Really good guys to work with.
Definitely say hello if you see me out at the track! I'll be racing the car in my avatar, so for better or worse it's easy to find .


Freakin' Chris, stealing my notes again!!! I'm tired of warning him about that!

Awesome!! InterCity just left with the cars....we'll be there tomorrow. Monday latest .

I think it depends on what the buyer is looking for. If it's primarily a street car, then the track-focused setup isn't as big of a deal, unless someone just wants that sort of car. If it's purpose is going to be primarily for the track, then without a doubt I'd go with an RS or a 4.0.

If the car will be tracked frequently and never used on the street, my opinion would be to get a race car. I started down the path to gutting my GT3 and turning it into a dedicated track car. Far cheaper to sell it and buy a used Cup, R, or RSR. And end up with a car that's truly made for the track and isn't a compromise, is lighter, safer, etc.

cobrien

Happy to offer my opinion, though it is just my opinion. Other people may have very different thoughts .

Anyhow, I think you answered your own question. It sounds like you really want the 4.0 over the other options. So if you have a chance to get one, that seems to be the way to go. You definitely won't be unhappy with it; it's an incredible car. And you can track it all day long without worry. Drive it to the track, beat it up all day, drive it home. As an aside, though I've never tracked one, I have seen a number of GT-Rs at the track. They're very quick cars for a few laps, but fall off quickly after that. And in most cases I've never seen one last an entire day. Lots of problems with heat/cooling and braking problems.

Good luck with your choice! It's a fun problem to have.

carcommander

Another great post. No one car does everything.

utkinpol

if you can ignore vanity fair factor and you do not compete in a spec class or do not need to show off it does not make any difference what car to drive on a track as long as your primary competition is your own skill level alone.

if you have extra money you do not know what to do with - 4.0 RS is a good buy. if you have other priorities to spend those money on - i would not even bother. if you want great car for a track and you have 100k budget - i would get a cup car and then worked to make enough reserves to repair it when needed. if you want car to show off - buy 458 or any other F-car or Lambo. "horses for courses".

TRAKCAR

Have a 3.8 and if I could, I would get a4.0.

gtdoggie

I recently went through months of indecision making a similar decision and like you went to the forums for guidance. I had a 73 911s as my daily driver for 18 years(sold it in 1995 for 18k! Which I thought was good money at that time), bought a 993, then a 996 turbo, then got the GT3 bug and bought a 997.1(wish I got the rs that was offered at msrp), when 3.8 was announced jumped to get a 3.8rs which is that much better in handling,power and sound then the gen 1. Absolutely loved that car and thought I was done for years. Then rumors and announcement of the 4.0. I thought it was at first a joke or a bad dream I was having( I just upgraded my gen 1 to 2). Quickly got in line to drink the cool-aid and "luckily" found one at msrp. Then lamented over my decision to make the upgrade as I new it would be around 90k after taxes etc. Long story short sold my beloved 3.8 rs two months ago and decided to get the 4.0. Felt that the pain over lost opportunity would cause me more sleepless nights then the extra car payments along with the whole "life is short" rationalization. So.........I have no regrets!! Best stupid money I have spent. I don't track and it is my weekend adios to my wife for a few hours get my ya ya's out car so I may be perfect for a car that may/probably have some collectability. If I tracked and beat it up I would have thought twice.

The car is really fantastic. The engine is much more powerful feeling then the 3.8. I have said it before that it pulls in every gear like you are one gear lower. The midrange torque feels like turbo kick but in a howling normally aspirated high revving engine. The best of both worlds. Like others have said it actually may be even more evident on the street as opposed to the track. This midrange punch to me was almost worth the $$(bigger grin on my face on those get out of the house weekend jaunts). I don't find the engine to be quiter than the 3.8 but is a bit deeper with a different "more air moving through it" sound. It is an amazing engine. The suspension seems that much more dialed in but in contrast to some others I feel it is actually a bit smoother on the street than the 3.8. It feels quite a bit more "planted".

Aesthetically, I dig it more and like the whorehouse red/black interior, decals , etc. But then again have been in the camp of liking the decals on all the RS's. They are RS's and feel they deserve to look different

Good luck with your decision. The 4.0 is fantastic and you would not regret it(life is short, etc). The 458 and McLaren are also supposed to be great , just different. One car I had a hard time deciding between and the 4.0 was a Scuderia but in the end realized I liked shifting, especially because I didn't track and times were not important. If I could have another car along with the 4.0 it would probably be the 458(envious of a previous poster)

Hope this helps you! Or gives some perspective to others. I guess like me, if you can get a low optioned 4.0 at msrp go for it as they will be harder to find.

tcsracing1

if you already have a 2010 GT3 and can readily come up with the difference for the 4.0L than yes, it is upgrade time. It is that good and worth it.

TRAKCAR

Sums it up perfectly.
Now repeat that thought process and take it to the track. Stat.

senna

Buying my 3.8 was a great decision, and I love my car. It is by far an amazing piece of engineering. I can see the 4.0 appeal of course, but I don't think it can't be a huge difference from the 3.8. Do I wish I had a 4.0? Absolutely, but I do not think $70k at a minimum is worth the extra you get from the 4.0.*

If it was sold for another $25k I would be in. But the MSRP of $185k was NOT a coincidence. $185k x600= $111,000,000 "million". It was an easy decision for the board to approve the last batch. *

I am going to drive the wheel off of my car with 70,000 extra smiles.*

LastMezger

+1

my911rs

4.0 is best 911 so far, and is a sure classic. 'nough said.

tcsracing1

OP:

if you had a 3.8RS i could see the reservation.

but with a non RS 3.8, the upgrade to the 4.0L (if money is not really an issue of course) is worth the effort.

It will be 2 years until we see a 991RS....

mooty

i have every GT3 variant for sale in USA.
truth: no. 4.0 is NOT worth the money delta.
but it's cool to have it. however stupid that may sound.
it's a fine street car and you will make friends with CHP. they all know me by name. i also know the guard at my local jail. it's good on street, just too fast and spills mocha.

so in short. nice to have. not required. if you must have one. i know of a cherry one of a kind orange RS4.0 at 500 miles for sale here in CA. $200k or so.

458 italia is not in same price mkt as RS4.0
mp12c is sexy, but no dealer net work.
if you are a porschphile, none of the above will do it. but if you dont worship porsche, then either can be fun.

996CAB

IF I can throw my comments down...I moved away from P-cars years ago...in the 996 days when I felt Porsche was going down the Mercs route...which was to build them cheap and sell them high...haha;

Looks like they have turned that around and the 4.0 is the only P-car in years that switched me on to P-cars again...specs reads well...

Just got to offload the V12 Tractor garage queen and who knows what will happen...

Great debate and some interesting points to note...