mooty making some moves in the garage
02-22-2009, 12:20 PM
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RS is a nice machine but leaving it in a garage and occasional weekend drives or grocery/kidgetter- that's for the birds. God why can't they just legaliaze a stripped out version of the gt3- all I need is 2 race seats/rollbar and everything else taken off ie ac/radio etc. I would buy one in a heartbeat. Mike
if he'll let me borrow it, i promise taking it into the financial district and see how many tix i can pick up.... must be 150 db hahahah.
dont dont push me.... next time you see my RS, it may have no int.
02-22-2009, 03:43 PM
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It depends on the track. At the high speed tracks like Cal Speedway or Laguna you're correct. But on the more technical tracks like Laguna or Buttownwillow the BSR's are quicker. Back in Dec. 05' Kevin Reynold (cup car driver) set a track record of 1:31:788 at WSIR in his street 996 GT3. No other 996 or 997 GT3 has matched that lap since. Last Dec. I turned a 1:31:731 in my Spec Box during qualifying.
mike, we might have to go down there and try it for ourselves! i just watched the jack olsen video and it looks like a fun track especially that last turn
02-22-2009, 03:47 PM
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that's impressive. do u know what tires the gt3 had? i've never been to WSIR but it seems quite fast and lots of room to stretch the legs so i'm surprised at this result.
mike, we might have to go down there and try it for ourselves! i just watched the jack olsen video and it looks like a fun track especially that last turn
mike, we might have to go down there and try it for ourselves! i just watched the jack olsen video and it looks like a fun track especially that last turn
02-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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mike, mike, colby and i will start our own unsanctioned gt3 spec racing team.
mission #1: steal all BSR apexes
02-22-2009, 04:32 PM
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i dont know about the stealing apex thing. i am usually inside of your on turns ;-) and my fender is ALREADY mangled muahhhhhh.....
02-22-2009, 05:27 PM
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The 996 GT3 is 700 lbs heavier, and the heavy butt just wants to break away when cornering at the limits.
There are plenty of lap times from Time Trials and Club Races as proof. Streets of Willow, Willow Springs, Cal Speedway, Buttonwillow, Laguna Seca, Vegas Speedway. The information is out there, I checked on this before getting into a BSR.
I can take out another 200 lbs easily from the BSR, it won't be BSR legal, but a 2,250 lbs (no fuel) BSR just needs 300 Hp to match the power/weight ratio of a 997 GT3 RS, and 375 Hp to match the one of a 997 GT2. Both figures can be easily achieved with a 3.4 and 3.8 respectively, and these engines are so cheap that it's hard not think about it.
02-22-2009, 05:39 PM
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^ i called stealer.
even WITHOUT core exchange. a 3.8 X51 crate motor is just 16,000
say a cherry cherry donar car at $30k
motor with install at $20k
and $40K to cover liposuction, CF pieces, LSD, deferred maintenance, labor and blah blah....
oh, i am in so much trouble.
even WITHOUT core exchange. a 3.8 X51 crate motor is just 16,000
say a cherry cherry donar car at $30k
motor with install at $20k
and $40K to cover liposuction, CF pieces, LSD, deferred maintenance, labor and blah blah....
oh, i am in so much trouble.
02-22-2009, 05:57 PM
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I would say take a cherry BSR donor car, engine swap, LSD and ready to go. Save the $40k lipo.
02-22-2009, 06:03 PM
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I agree that the BSR is an awesome racetrack, and with more power even better. I drove a friend's 3.4 "BSR" and it is the most fun track car I've driven. Much better and faster than my Lotus Exige S.
So most of you are saying the 2500lbs 200bhp BSR is as fast as a GT3, then in theory the Lotus Exige S or Cup Car should be even faster than this? Then why (including my own experience) is the Lotus faster than a GT3 around any track?
So most of you are saying the 2500lbs 200bhp BSR is as fast as a GT3, then in theory the Lotus Exige S or Cup Car should be even faster than this? Then why (including my own experience) is the Lotus faster than a GT3 around any track?
02-22-2009, 06:04 PM
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good point. i didn't think the pricing list was out for the DFI.
hum.... too bad new cay s only has 3.4 at 320hp.
otherwise, i can just get the new cay, remove all the crap inside the cabin (wt) and i am done. much easier since i dont know how to work on my own cars.
oh, add LSD.
new cay will be here march.... i'll chk one out.
hum.... too bad new cay s only has 3.4 at 320hp.
otherwise, i can just get the new cay, remove all the crap inside the cabin (wt) and i am done. much easier since i dont know how to work on my own cars.
oh, add LSD.
new cay will be here march.... i'll chk one out.
02-22-2009, 07:20 PM
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I can see how a 3.4 (300hp+) BSR can be as fast (and more fun) than a GT3, but not a chance with only 200hp, IMO.
02-22-2009, 07:24 PM
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Agreed, it was a Typo from my part. I demolish my own Lotus Exige S lap times in my (formerly) own 997S (Slower than a GT3).
02-22-2009, 09:33 PM
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