SpeedyD

I have to admit that I'm surprised that some of us will still look just at the $$ and not what you're getting.

Huge range of quality of cars you can get at $55K for an 09 C2S, or any car someone is looking to buy at a given price.

I know because I went through about 15-20 cars before buying my own car a few years ago. On paper it is easy to say "good deal" or "bad deal" but we see on the forum the aftereffects of buying something on the lower price range of spectrum (more often than not).

A buyer who spends over $60K for the exact car they wanted was less a sucker imho than someone who saves $5K and gets a car with issues, or that doesn't have the specs or details they were looking for.

Some of the dreamers on the selling side may be asking above the market average price but they may also know they have an above average car and demanding that higher price. It is a market but these aren't stocks -- not every one of them is the same with another.

dawgcatching

it's a car, not an investment. Don't underestimate that. We go into a recession next week, this car will lose 10 K in value in the next couple of years.

I say just enjoy it for what it is, I certainly wouldn't pay 59 for it and don't know anyone who would. If it's worth that for you, just keep it and enjoy it!

Airbag997

Albeit, It was a manual. So even more rare for a 997.2.


Personally, black is my least favorite color, but if it was the right color combo. I would shell out ~60k for a clean low mileage 997.2 C2S.


I don't understand why people think these prices are ridiculous. The 997.2 is a refined masterpiece. Arguably the most balanced all-around 911 that will ever be made. There is a HIGH demand for 997's, and there is short supply. Economics 101.


To me a sucker is someone who shells out ~$60k+ for a 3,700 lb $48k Mustang with matching Fiesta interior. Not someone who picks up a classic six figure German masterpiece for damn near half price. But to each their own...

Airbag997

I agree 100%.


I was just testing (hence "feeler") the market demand. It has spoken. I am a dreamer. That's fine. The car is still worth much more to me than what the "market value" is. The GT3 is the only other car I would consider, but I can also wait.


Looking at what's available these days, there really isn't anything under 60k that even remotely tickles my fancy:

• M4/M3 = Boring, uninspiring
• M2 = Just a smaller much uglier M4
• Shelby 350 = $60k+ 3,700 lb Fiesta with a flat plane crank

Anything else worth looking at is well above $60k. Sports cars are dead. Period. Unless you have $100k+ budget. These 997's are the last of a dying breed. Just like the E46 M3, and normally aspirated Porsches that are all FI now.

eagle1960

Bought my 2009 Porsche Racing Green C2S from an Atlanta dealer 3 years ago CPO with 18k at least $10K under market. I get lots of positive comments about the color since it is fairly rare and attractive to other folks besides me!
Also, seems like the demand is for black/black, which I don't get.

srcn

Low mileage 997.1 Turbo w/Tiptronic at Carmax.

Black w/full black leather. No sport chrono, and has some aftermarket exhaust system on it.

https://www.carmax.com/car/13808476?...%20content=DSK

Darkhorse

I shopped hard for a 997.2 S or C4S 6MT Cabriolet over the last year or so. I saw a ton of black ones or sale. I found a very nice, highly optioned Green with tan but just couldn't pull the trigger on the color. I eventually paid $5K more for a gray 2009 C4S with fewer options, but almost all the options I wanted. I can always buy power seats with lumbar if these make me crazy. I did not want black or green, and figured I can't repaint.

Abe Froman

This!

I saw a $138K Targa 4S sell for $53K. It was friggin gorgeous. 60K miles but that's Audi S3 territory.

Abe Froman

Racing Green is beautiful - underappreciated too.
Too bad so many came with sand beige interior. The few with cocoa brown look amazing.

Same goes for Macadamia, Nordic Gold and Malachite Green.

zechunique

Can any of you comment on PDK improvements through the 997.2 range? I seem to recall that the first year PDK got an upgrade, but not sure if that was at all prior to the 991 transition (which I know was an improvement itself). Did the later 997.2 PDK get any improvements?

pfbz

No one is arguing the desirability of a 997.2, just your pricing perspective. Yes, it's low miles and clean. And a color you find desirable... But it is by no means a rare or ultra-desireable 997.2. Things like Aerokit, manual transmission, unique PTS colors, very tastefully and highly optioned cars, Targas, 4S's, etc can significantly bump value.

I'm not trying to be negative about your car... It looks nice, checks most of the basic boxes, and would be an awesome very clean (but still PDK) 997.2 at $50,000. At $59K, it will take someone who loves it more than you to overpay significantly just because they can't live without your particular color combo?

Airbag997

No argument here. Like I said, to each their own. Personally, the quintessential 911 is a C2S. Rear wheel drive. Light weight. Normally aspirated flat 6. No unnecessary weight adders with clean classic lines.


I'm sure they are others who feel the same, and others who disagree

Para82

No offense but you're an idiot - the Shelby GT350 comes equipped with a 8,250 rpm 526hp flat plane crank n/a masterpiece of an engine, stunning looks, excellent suspension and easily one of the top 10 greatest sports coupes made in the last 25 years. Let me know when the Germans offer something on this level. I wouldn't hold my breath. Why do you think all the gear heads in Germany are begging Ford to export this car? They're stuck with that neat turbo M4 instead.

jakeg

Getting back on track with 997 dealz 😜 here is a well priced (IMO) '12 C4S that looks gorgeous in pics. It's OBO as well.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332181806638

Airbag997

With a response like that, you must own one...

I wasn't impressed at all. Seat sits high like a truck. Clutch way too light. Gearbox is meh. You can feel the 3,700 lbs, albeit, I admit they do a decent job masking the weight with the suspension tune. The interior is just way too Fiesta for me. I don't care if they put a Ferrari V12 under the hood. It's overhyped, and overpriced. Unless you just want to go fast at the track. Then it's a bargain. I would pick up a Golf R before I ever dropped $60k on a fast Ford Fiesta. But again, to each their own.