rodsky

The 997.2 is better in pretty much every area. It's noticeably quicker and you can feel the extra 40 HP and torque. I think that Porsche may be sandbagging the numbers because it feels really quick. The ride is also better. I have Spasm which lowers the car and i pretty much drive in normal mode which is smoother than the 40th. Sport mode is pretty stiff. The interior is a big step up. The only mildly disappointing item is exhaust note. I'm OK with it, but will likely add PSE so I can have options. I'm very happy with the 997.2S.

MSR Racer

I ordered a 991S but I am keeping 2007 C4S Targa too bcos the two cars feel so different to drive. You know that they both 911s the moment you gun the engine and start driving, but I cant let go of my 997.1 yet. At a trade in of 50k, it is easier to keep mine than a brand new GTS!

allegretto

Well, it travels through an acoustically tuned port that terminates in the cabin. The port didn't just happen, it was engineered to make it sound the way it does. It's not the natural sound of the engine, but an artificially enhanced one, that is scientifically designed to excite the driver. I know of no car that does this and would not buy any other marque that did it either.

Fake, says I

How many early posts extolled the "new exhaust note"? Now, crickets... with the possible exception of the few who have actually ordered it, no one I know thinks it's cool. But that's OK, if you like it fine. Honest and true. I don't mean to detract from anyone's fun. I said my piece far earlier on the car. But I stumbled back here and some were still acting as if those who were happy with their GTS's or what not were just kidding themselves. So I chimed in.

FWIW, the Symposer is not the only reason I won't be ordering the New Porsche after 5 gens of doing exactly that. Unlike the past renditions, it just "don't float my boat". Not an indictment, just an opinion with listed justification.

vern1

and so it continues.....i can afford a new one if i wanted one blah blah blah

i am going to go and try and be happy now

allegretto

school was challenging, wasn't it?

Mike in CA

That's a very narrow interpretation, IMHO. Do you think that exhaust systems (including factory systems) aren't tuned to produce a specific sound and provide aural excitement? Why is providing a way to hear intake sound different than enhancing the exhaust note through different headers, muffler designs, gundo hacks, eliminating sound deadening, etc? Virtually every sporting marque puts a priority on developing a specific sound for their cars, and finding ways for the driver to hear it, so you're going to have a very small selection to choose from if you only want "natural sound". It's true of virtually all exhaust and intake sounds (not just the Symposer); they don't just happen, they are engineered to make a car sound the way it does.......

ADias

Symposer, loud exhausts, and so on are just a waste of acoustic energy.

TommyV44

Man you are relentless........and way defensive....tough way to live!

GSIRM3

The wannabe is back.

allegretto

Fair question and I'll explain my POV;

1) While exhaust notes are indeed tuned, and aftermarket purveyors spend mightily to obtain a specific tone, I know of none that tune the sound of an intake. But I could be wrong

2) Factory and aftermarket exhaust units perform a specific function for the vehicle and are considered pretty much non-optional as a part of the package. Even a Cup car has much more to its exhaust system than bare headers. And while the systems all have their harmonics, they also carry gases away from the engine

3) The Symposer is the first time that I am aware of, and may indeed be the first time in history (certainly Porsche history) that engine noise is piped into the interior of the vehicle by a device specifically design for no other function than pumping noise into the interior. The device fails to enhance performance at all and is specifically designed, at Porsche's own admission to simply "excite" the driver. Yes Porsche has excited drivers before, but typically using performance, not the simulacrum of such

4) It is the first "noise enhancer" that cannot be appreciated outside the cabin.

5) Porsche didn't hide the fact that it had a "noise maker", but many a customer was tacitly mislead as to it's nature and waxed at length about the "exhaust note" and I'll bet a dime very few salesmen told them, "no, it's tuned intake noise" on their test drive.

Hey, whatever. Just kinda silly for me. I'm glad you can shut it off. Maybe there is hope for me afterall. Now, about that sunroof...

Mike in CA

No point in continuing this ad nauseum: just to comment on two points. As to #4, BMW is using exhaust sound piped over the audio system on the M5; at least Porsche isn't THAT lame. And as for #5, Porsche HAS made changes to enhance the exhaust note as well as adding the Symposer so they haven't been misleading anyone on that score. The sunroof? I'll have to agree with you there.

vern1

so witty - all 3 of you - you are relentless arent you

have fun boys - enjoy those classic gts's - i wish i could afford one - oh wait i can but my 997.1 and 993 are so much more raw and visceral, and my black is so much blacker than that 991 thing

as i said on that other thread, you guys are hilarious

gpjli2

I would ask why you are reading this stuff but wait! YOU ARE A TROLL. We must not waste time on trolls. As for this thread, if I had to choose between GTS and 991 I would buy the GTS. The truth however is that I really just want to keep my 06 997S. Come to think of it, why am I reading this thread?

allegretto

reading is oh so difficult when you have to comprehend. Now don't say it's cuz you're Canadian. I know some pretty smart ones.

You, OTOH? Not so much. Consult with Dean Wormer would do you some good.

allegretto

Hey Mike, I'm with ya

Won't find a new Bimmer in my garage either. Wile I think P was goofy, BMW has stolen the Show with that.

In truth, I think both (at different volume levels) have spoken about their respect for the consumer. Geez, they are almost Politicians now...