Post your PIC: "The SNOW is here and I have no FEAR!"
12-06-2007, 07:01 PM
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Post your PIC: "The SNOW is here and I have no FEAR!"
Finally, the snow coming down here in N. Cali.
I have my C4S fitted with C4 18s with Pirelli snowsports.
I thought I would drive up to the small vacant parking lot of the ski resort here to see how it handles in Normal/Sport/PSM off. It sure was fun
This is what I noticed. Driving normally with PSM on, you get the back sliding out on you when accelerating, even at 40mph. PSM does kick in pretty quick, but it is not as intrusive as my Volvo.
In the parking lot I put on 'Sport mode' to see how it "Waters down" PSM. It certainly let me get a little more sideways before having PSM kick in. But the FUN started when I disengaged the PSM and let the AWD do its stuff. As we all know it is certainly a rear wheel bias system and it is best that way. The rear would swing wide, countersteer into the direction of the slide and the front wheels would pull you out just perfectly! What a feeling.
I have noticed with Viscous coupling AWD systems that the PSM type systems can hinder if not facilitate you in an understeer situation in snow and definitely bog you down in deep snow(certainly the case in my 02 Volvo wagon). I noticed this in the C4S when I tried turning, it understeered and when I tried to correct it with oversteer the PSM intruded not allowing me to accelerate correcting with oversteer because it detected the front wheels sliding, so I just kept going straight!!! Does anybody know if the Electronic AWD(Turbo) would work better together with PSM to allow you to correct!??
I guess this is the cheap way to have fun in that you don't burn through tires getting sideways on a race track(like those guys on Top Gear). Now I need to find a bigger parking lot!
If you have no FEAR, show your Pcar in the SNOW here!!!
I have my C4S fitted with C4 18s with Pirelli snowsports.
I thought I would drive up to the small vacant parking lot of the ski resort here to see how it handles in Normal/Sport/PSM off. It sure was fun
This is what I noticed. Driving normally with PSM on, you get the back sliding out on you when accelerating, even at 40mph. PSM does kick in pretty quick, but it is not as intrusive as my Volvo.
In the parking lot I put on 'Sport mode' to see how it "Waters down" PSM. It certainly let me get a little more sideways before having PSM kick in. But the FUN started when I disengaged the PSM and let the AWD do its stuff. As we all know it is certainly a rear wheel bias system and it is best that way. The rear would swing wide, countersteer into the direction of the slide and the front wheels would pull you out just perfectly! What a feeling.
I have noticed with Viscous coupling AWD systems that the PSM type systems can hinder if not facilitate you in an understeer situation in snow and definitely bog you down in deep snow(certainly the case in my 02 Volvo wagon). I noticed this in the C4S when I tried turning, it understeered and when I tried to correct it with oversteer the PSM intruded not allowing me to accelerate correcting with oversteer because it detected the front wheels sliding, so I just kept going straight!!! Does anybody know if the Electronic AWD(Turbo) would work better together with PSM to allow you to correct!??
I guess this is the cheap way to have fun in that you don't burn through tires getting sideways on a race track(like those guys on Top Gear). Now I need to find a bigger parking lot!
If you have no FEAR, show your Pcar in the SNOW here!!!
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12-06-2007, 08:33 PM
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I don't care about wind or dust, I have a big problem with the back end passing me and then looking straight at the guy behind me. I love AWD, I have an Allroad for the days that the 997 is being a Garage Queen!
12-06-2007, 08:50 PM
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One man's garage queen is another man's daily driver(even when it snows.) I put my Michelin Alpins on my C2 just in time for some snow here in Seattle. The car handled well in the snow even without the AWD. I guess I did worry a bit about being crunched by a SUV driver. However, the 997 is a durable vehicle(isn't all the sheet metal galvanized?)that can be driven all year around as long as you have the proper tires.
Nice.. Thanks for doing the dirty works....I don't have the guts to take it into the snows.....
12-06-2007, 10:22 PM
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How refreshing to see people actually driving their cars. It seems so many Porsche owners seem to forget what these vehicles are....mass produced modern vehicles that are meant to be driven. Slap some snows on and enjoy; it's not a priceless, delicate antique; a paint chip or two won't make it worthless; and a little road salt won't cause the car to rust away before you make it home.