05 Carrera S vs 02 996 Turbo...decisions, decisions...
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05 Carrera S vs 02 996 Turbo...decisions, decisions...
I posted this at the Turbo board as well. I'm sure I'll get some interesting, somewhat biased, opinions from both boards =).
Price within a grand of each other. Will it be door number one or door number two.............
http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dd...ler_id=4268066
http://www.rmeurosport.com/site/index.html
2005 PORSCHE CARRERA S
Miles: 6934
Engine: 6 Cylinder
Transmission: Manual
VIN: WP0AB29945S741419
Stock#: 06365
Price: $79950
2002 PORSCHE 911 TURBO
Miles: 18436
Engine: 6 Cylinder
Transmission: Manual
VIN: WP0AB29992S685294
Stock#: 06161
Price: $78950
Price within a grand of each other. Will it be door number one or door number two.............
http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dd...ler_id=4268066
http://www.rmeurosport.com/site/index.html
2005 PORSCHE CARRERA S
Miles: 6934
Engine: 6 Cylinder
Transmission: Manual
VIN: WP0AB29945S741419
Stock#: 06365
Price: $79950
2002 PORSCHE 911 TURBO
Miles: 18436
Engine: 6 Cylinder
Transmission: Manual
VIN: WP0AB29992S685294
Stock#: 06161
Price: $78950
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I had the same dilemma back in April: '06 997S or '02 996TT. In the end, I chose the 997S because it wasn't even broken in yet, had the newer body style, updated interior, and the CPO that took the warranty thru year 2010.
The TT was plenty powerful, but IMHO it felt like the car was driving me and I wasn't driving the car. I just felt more comfortable / confident driving the 997S.
In the end, it's all about you and what you want.
Hope this helps.
Andre
The TT was plenty powerful, but IMHO it felt like the car was driving me and I wasn't driving the car. I just felt more comfortable / confident driving the 997S.
In the end, it's all about you and what you want.
Hope this helps.
Andre
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I had an '02 Carrera
I now have an '05 997S
The 997 is an 80% redesign and shows in just about every aspect of the car.
The ergonomics are vastly superior in the 997, comfort, seating, controls etc.
I'm glad I made the switch.
Most likely the 997 will be more car than you are a driver...and you will have loads of fun!!
Go for current technology!!
I now have an '05 997S
The 997 is an 80% redesign and shows in just about every aspect of the car.
The ergonomics are vastly superior in the 997, comfort, seating, controls etc.
I'm glad I made the switch.
Most likely the 997 will be more car than you are a driver...and you will have loads of fun!!
Go for current technology!!
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996TT vs 997C2S is a TOUGH choice.
I think I'd get the 996 Turbo. You get a bullet proof GT1 inspired Porsche race engine that can withstand modifications to 600 hp, a true dry sump lub system, plus a sweet wide body and that beautiful timeless Turbo badge on the back. The ultimate all weather daily driver super car whose heritage traces directly back to the 959 and beyond. A 911 Turbo is a timeless beast, and a stock Turbo in great shape has plenty of years of driving ahead, with th eopportuinty to really upgrade and modify it as you wish and as your drivings skills/needs/desires grow. This is obviously a matter of personal taste, but I happen to like the 996 TT headlights more than the 997 headlights as I think they look more modern and inspired. (The other styling nods do go to the 997 though, but th epoint is that the 996TT is no frumpy baby)
The 997C2S (which I have an am a fan of) really has a modified Boxster engine in it. Everyone makes such a big deal about the looks of the interior and the quality of the materials. Again, to each his own, but I think the relatively spartan (read: no TV screen in the dash with 50 buttons surround it) 996 interior is more sportscar like and less GT, and IT'S THE INTERIOR ANYWAYS. When you're driving, your eyes are on the road and the rest of you is in tune with the machine and it's interaction with the road. The interior is the least important part of the car (as long as you're comfortable in it), and the 996 interior isn't THAT BAD!
Get a discounted 996 TTS with second gen PCCB's!
Tell us how it works out.
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I think I'd get the 996 Turbo. You get a bullet proof GT1 inspired Porsche race engine that can withstand modifications to 600 hp, a true dry sump lub system, plus a sweet wide body and that beautiful timeless Turbo badge on the back. The ultimate all weather daily driver super car whose heritage traces directly back to the 959 and beyond. A 911 Turbo is a timeless beast, and a stock Turbo in great shape has plenty of years of driving ahead, with th eopportuinty to really upgrade and modify it as you wish and as your drivings skills/needs/desires grow. This is obviously a matter of personal taste, but I happen to like the 996 TT headlights more than the 997 headlights as I think they look more modern and inspired. (The other styling nods do go to the 997 though, but th epoint is that the 996TT is no frumpy baby)
The 997C2S (which I have an am a fan of) really has a modified Boxster engine in it. Everyone makes such a big deal about the looks of the interior and the quality of the materials. Again, to each his own, but I think the relatively spartan (read: no TV screen in the dash with 50 buttons surround it) 996 interior is more sportscar like and less GT, and IT'S THE INTERIOR ANYWAYS. When you're driving, your eyes are on the road and the rest of you is in tune with the machine and it's interaction with the road. The interior is the least important part of the car (as long as you're comfortable in it), and the 996 interior isn't THAT BAD!
Get a discounted 996 TTS with second gen PCCB's!
Tell us how it works out.
-B
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Comfort, style and upgraded suspension--997. If you're just looking for track car, go for the 996. Something you'll be driving regularly, the 997 is superior in comfort and design. I've owned both.
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The Turbo will have slightly higher maintenace costs (spark plugs earlier/more often, etc).
The Turbo will drive a bit differently due to the AWD system (tends more towards a bit of understeer) and is a bit heavier.
The Turbo will require 1-2 minutes of cool down prior to shutting off the engine each time.
The Turbo does retain (even though it's been overproduced compared to 993TT and 964TT) a certain mystique, simply based on the name/heritage. At the factory, it is still referred to as 'Top' on internal parts/documentation.
Personally, I don't know if I would feel comfortable owning a non M64/GT1 derived engine. That engine/block is the last piece that you can trace back to the air cooled Porsches of the past, and is pretty much bulletproof.
The Turbo will drive a bit differently due to the AWD system (tends more towards a bit of understeer) and is a bit heavier.
The Turbo will require 1-2 minutes of cool down prior to shutting off the engine each time.
The Turbo does retain (even though it's been overproduced compared to 993TT and 964TT) a certain mystique, simply based on the name/heritage. At the factory, it is still referred to as 'Top' on internal parts/documentation.
Personally, I don't know if I would feel comfortable owning a non M64/GT1 derived engine. That engine/block is the last piece that you can trace back to the air cooled Porsches of the past, and is pretty much bulletproof.
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Other thougts, the turbo has passed the sharp depriciation curve, so over the next few years, the turbo will likley be worth more than the 997. Also 80K for a 2005 (and by description, not much options) seems overpriced (as someone had a launch car (PCCB full leather, etc) go for less than 70K recently see link for recent thread:https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/295338-a-great-deal-on-a-997s-launch-car.html ) as for a few thousand more you can get a new 2007.
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I had the same decision when I bought my '05 997S in early December '04. I drove the 996 turbo before and after the 997S that day.
My purchasing decision went to the 997S. At the time it was the same or superior in all categories (subjective or not) except future "modibility".
Having done that almost 2 years ago I say: get the 3.6 engine mentioned above.
My purchasing decision went to the 997S. At the time it was the same or superior in all categories (subjective or not) except future "modibility".
Having done that almost 2 years ago I say: get the 3.6 engine mentioned above.
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It's not the car. It's the driver. Are you into racing the car on a track where you will need that kind of HP?
The suspension changes in the 997 body area incredible. That should be a bit factor,--handling. For pure HP and speed go with the turbo. For terrific handling,--the 997.
The suspension changes in the 997 body area incredible. That should be a bit factor,--handling. For pure HP and speed go with the turbo. For terrific handling,--the 997.