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Looking to purchase this 2005 c2 with 130k miles, but seller wants it gone quick as he has other sellers lined up (tomorrow) and I’m unable to get a ppi + borescoping in time. I had a phone consultation with the almighty @groovzilla and was recommended to share these oil analyses that the seller provided with y’all. I’m not familiar with these oil analyses, but preliminary research shows that it looks good. What do you think? Is it worth the gamble?
IMS hasn’t been done to this M96 early build 10/2004 either.
also on original clutch+flywheel.
seller has an extensive maintenance list during his 7 year ownership since 2017: 07-29-2017
96,222 Miles
Oil and Filter - Mobile1
01/15/2018 105,470 Miles Tires Rotated
03/20/2018
102,638 Miles
Oil and Filter Changed Mobile1 Full Synthetic
05/05/2018
103,868 Miles
Rear Deck Actuator replaced OEM
06/28/2018
105,423 Miles
Left Front Window Switch Replaced
06/28/2018
105,423
Serpentine Belt Replaced
07/05/2018
105,550 Miles
Thermostat replaced
Water Pump Replaced OEM Radiator Cap Replaced Belts Replaced
07/05/2018
105,550 Miles
Thermostat replaced
Water Pump Replaced OEM Radiator Cap Replaced Belts Replaced
07/06/2018 105,550
Battery Replaced
07/06/2018 105,608 Miles Oil and Filter
07/11/2018
105,590
Found crack in coolant reservoir Replaced and flushed system
10/15/2018
108,360 Miles
Starter replaced with BOSCH OEM
10/26/2018 108,720 Miles Oil and Filter
12/29/2018
110,328 miles
Oil and Filter Replaced
01/30/2019
110,885 Miles
All fluids flushed and checked Brakes Checked
02/06/2019 110,886
Glove Box repaired
04/15/2019
116,334
AC Blower Motor replaced due to noise
02/06/2019
121,888 Miles
110,886
Glove Box repaired
04/15/2019
116,334
AC Blower Motor replaced due to noise
03/09/2020
118,021
Oil and Filter Changed
04/17/2020
118,875 Miles
Front airbag sensors replaced due to CEL error
06/08/2020
119,153
Euroglass replaced windshield OEM
07/01/2020
119,462 Miles
Oil and Filter Replaced
07/10/2020
119,891
Throttle Body Cleaned and Serviced with new sensor
07/11/2020 119,938 Miles Oil and Filter
09/15/2020
120,120
Ignition Control Module under clutch pedal replaced
10/10/2020 121,287 Miles Oil and Filter
12/27/2020
121,345
Alternator Replaced - Bosch
01/09/2021
12/27/2020
121,345
Alternator Replaced - Bosch
01/09/2021
121,888 Miles Vacuum hose replaced
03/25/2021 121,838 Miles Oil and Filter
09/21/2021 121,290 Miles Oil and Filter
01/06/2022
124,800 Miles
Cabin Air filter replaced
01/29/2022 124,785
Oil and Filter
03/25/2022
124,870 Miles
All 4 Brakes and Rotors Replaced
04/22/2022
125,426
Key Ignition Switch Replaced
04/22/2022
125,426
Rear Engine Mounts Replaced OEM
05/06/2022
126,043
Front control arms replaced
Front and Rear Shocks and Struts Replaced with Bilstein B6 PASM
05/13/2022
125,478 Miles
Window lock sensor replaced - Driver side
126,043
Front control arms replaced
Front and Rear Shocks and Struts Replaced with Bilstein B6 PASM
I wouldn’t risk it without a ppi looking for the bore scoring. But then again, if you’re willing to roll the dice and have $$ for a potential $30k rebuild then go for it!
Last edited by achtung911; 11-28-2023 at 02:09 AM.
Iron and copper are a bit high in that first report, but we see that with Mobil 1 oil and some of the LiquiMoly ones and for 5k miles on that run, probably OK. They just don't protect the main engine bearings well.
For only 1,100 miles in that 2nd report, both iron and aluminum are higher than they should be. Iron should be 4 or 5 after4-5k miles and aluminum should be in single digits after 4-5k miles. With 7ppm after only 1,100 miles, I'd expect it will show 15-20 after a normal run and that would be a clear indicator of scored cylinders. I would not proceed with this particular car without a boroscope prior to purchase based on those UOA reports.
For comparison, here's a UOA report on my wife's 05 C2S showing metal wear numbers at various time and mileage intervals. Even the run of 7,800 miles where I missed the oil change is lower than your sample at 1,100 miles.
Thanks all for your feedback. The car sold last night so probably dodged a bullet here. Seems like the seller was in a rush to sell the vehicle and did not like the idea of a PPI.
Thank you @Petza914 for sharing your oil analysis and insight. I was only looking at the metal numbers and disregarded the miles. You are probably on the money about the borescoring since the seller listed for $24.5k and agreed to sell for $21k.
That was a great deal IF the seller would have allowed PPI & Bore Scope Inspection. Always suspect when seller is in a rush and won't allow the car to be inspected.
Just can't take a chance.
However at $21K if I was in same position I'd probably be tempted to buy it when you consider a roller'e are selling for $13K
Thanks all for your feedback. The car sold last night so probably dodged a bullet here. Seems like the seller was in a rush to sell the vehicle and did not like the idea of a PPI.
Thank you @Petza914 for sharing your oil analysis and insight. I was only looking at the metal numbers and disregarded the miles. You are probably on the money about the borescoring since the seller listed for $24.5k and agreed to sell for $21k.
There will be another one !
With a price that low buying the car would have made sense if you liked it. You could have had it rebuilt by Slakker Hartech and still been under $50k with a new, stout and upgraded engine.
With a price that low buying the car would have made sense if you liked it. You could have had it rebuilt by Slakker Hartech and still been under $50k with a new, stout and upgraded engine.
Yeah, but now you're down to 1 horsepower - that's worse than an LS swap. I'd rather have the extra 399 horses and the flat six wail of one of Slakker's 4.1's.
Yeah, but now you're down to 1 horsepower - that's worse than an LS swap. I'd rather have the extra 399 horses and the flat six wail of one of Slakker's 4.1's.
Id bet atleast 4-5 horse power. Some horses can generate up to 15 horse powers!
11-27-2023, 11:51 PM
2005 C2 130k miles oil analysis
