My PPI report came back today
#16
If you have the plugs done, sticking a camera in there while plugs are out would give you some info on whether the cylinder bores are scored or not. Wish I had done that when I got my plugs replaced. . .
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#17
IMO there's not enough info to make decision based on this PPI. Perhaps I missed it it doesn't say if it's a 997.1 or 997.2. Price? Miles? Engine sounds? Oil condition and filter cut open to check? Paint thickness? Looks like there's been deferred maintenance which can be expensive unless you DIY. Again, all of this could be fine and it could be a great car if the price is right. But the OP asked, "So given the PPI… would you guys be comfortable buying this car?" Maybe, depends on your personal risk tolerance.
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mhitchi (07-22-2021)
#18
You should do plugs and coil packs if they haven't been done in this cars life. You're also entering the water pump failure mileage range (45k-65k) so be prepared for that. I would also check the coolant expansion tank for hairline weaknsoots that will become leaks. Change that when you decide to do the water pump as you have to empty the system anyway. New serpentine belt at that same time.
100% agree, this PPI is the equivalent of taking a knowledgeable buddy with you to look at the car for a second opinion. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not the specialized inspection of someone who really knows these cars.
IMO there's not enough info to make decision based on this PPI. Perhaps I missed it it doesn't say if it's a 997.1 or 997.2. Price? Miles? Engine sounds? Oil condition and filter cut open to check? Paint thickness? Looks like there's been deferred maintenance which can be expensive unless you DIY. Again, all of this could be fine and it could be a great car if the price is right. But the OP asked, "So given the PPI… would you guys be comfortable buying this car?" Maybe, depends on your personal risk tolerance.
IMO there's not enough info to make decision based on this PPI. Perhaps I missed it it doesn't say if it's a 997.1 or 997.2. Price? Miles? Engine sounds? Oil condition and filter cut open to check? Paint thickness? Looks like there's been deferred maintenance which can be expensive unless you DIY. Again, all of this could be fine and it could be a great car if the price is right. But the OP asked, "So given the PPI… would you guys be comfortable buying this car?" Maybe, depends on your personal risk tolerance.
To the OP - if you're truly interested in getting feedback and opinions about whether or not you should purchase the car, I would recommend that you provide more information on the car.
#19
Appreciate the feedback from folks.
Realize I should have provided more context…
So this is an out of state purchase and while I was able to view the car in person briefly when I was visiting in-laws I didn’t have an opportunity to bring a Porsche knowledgeable friend (I only have one friend familiar with older Porsches). Hence to me a PPI was worth it but I recognize, and accept, the risk that not having a more thorough PPI means (eg., not boroscoped). Also gave me peace of mind that the seller had no problem whatsoever with taking it in for a PPI.
This is a 2010 C2 coupe with a clean carfax. It’s a manual and completely stock. Has chrono, PASM, Bose, sports seats, Does not have any signs of abuse and paint work/panels look good. Only thing I found was that when the wing is raised there’s a dry squeaking sound… like it needs some kind of lubricant. Also the owner paid for an oil change at the same time it was inspected. The dealership checked for debris in the filter and found none.
Price is 55k with new rear tires.
Hope that provides a better picture. Cheers
Realize I should have provided more context…
So this is an out of state purchase and while I was able to view the car in person briefly when I was visiting in-laws I didn’t have an opportunity to bring a Porsche knowledgeable friend (I only have one friend familiar with older Porsches). Hence to me a PPI was worth it but I recognize, and accept, the risk that not having a more thorough PPI means (eg., not boroscoped). Also gave me peace of mind that the seller had no problem whatsoever with taking it in for a PPI.
This is a 2010 C2 coupe with a clean carfax. It’s a manual and completely stock. Has chrono, PASM, Bose, sports seats, Does not have any signs of abuse and paint work/panels look good. Only thing I found was that when the wing is raised there’s a dry squeaking sound… like it needs some kind of lubricant. Also the owner paid for an oil change at the same time it was inspected. The dealership checked for debris in the filter and found none.
Price is 55k with new rear tires.
Hope that provides a better picture. Cheers
#22
These are only opinions as we are not there to look, touch and drive the car. Having said that, what you have here is a .2 Manual Trans car. They have a great history of having nothing major being or going wrong. (Don't get mixed up with .1 car characteristics, they are different animals). At 45K miles, you are nowhere near any major (or minor) repairs. The only issue for these DI cars is if the HPFP (hi pressure fuel pump) has been replaced (many were done under warrenty). In any event ,that is not a deal breaker (easy to change) and you are looking at 100K + miles trouble free with good maintenance. The DME report would be nice, but in probably 97+% of the time they are great anyway. The fact that it needs a clutch switch means it is a real 997 and not some fake car. We all have (or will ) new clutch switches. Sounds like a good car. Make a decision.
#23
Appreciate the feedback from folks.
Realize I should have provided more context…
So this is an out of state purchase and while I was able to view the car in person briefly when I was visiting in-laws I didn’t have an opportunity to bring a Porsche knowledgeable friend (I only have one friend familiar with older Porsches). Hence to me a PPI was worth it but I recognize, and accept, the risk that not having a more thorough PPI means (eg., not boroscoped). Also gave me peace of mind that the seller had no problem whatsoever with taking it in for a PPI.
This is a 2010 C2 coupe with a clean carfax. It’s a manual and completely stock. Has chrono, PASM, Bose, sports seats, Does not have any signs of abuse and paint work/panels look good. Only thing I found was that when the wing is raised there’s a dry squeaking sound… like it needs some kind of lubricant. Also the owner paid for an oil change at the same time it was inspected. The dealership checked for debris in the filter and found none.
Price is 55k with new rear tires.
Hope that provides a better picture. Cheers
Realize I should have provided more context…
So this is an out of state purchase and while I was able to view the car in person briefly when I was visiting in-laws I didn’t have an opportunity to bring a Porsche knowledgeable friend (I only have one friend familiar with older Porsches). Hence to me a PPI was worth it but I recognize, and accept, the risk that not having a more thorough PPI means (eg., not boroscoped). Also gave me peace of mind that the seller had no problem whatsoever with taking it in for a PPI.
This is a 2010 C2 coupe with a clean carfax. It’s a manual and completely stock. Has chrono, PASM, Bose, sports seats, Does not have any signs of abuse and paint work/panels look good. Only thing I found was that when the wing is raised there’s a dry squeaking sound… like it needs some kind of lubricant. Also the owner paid for an oil change at the same time it was inspected. The dealership checked for debris in the filter and found none.
Price is 55k with new rear tires.
Hope that provides a better picture. Cheers
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#24
You should do plugs and coil packs if they haven't been done in this cars life. You're also entering the water pump failure mileage range (45k-65k) so be prepared for that. I would also check the coolant expansion tank for hairline weaknsoots that will become leaks. Change that when you decide to do the water pump as you have to empty the system anyway. New serpentine belt at that same time.
#25
Got a pic of that mouse nest?
From my own mouse experiences, I have discovered that - if they have a good source of food close by, the odds of them chewing something in your car are lowered, as they will typically chew wires when there's nothing else to eat.
I discovered a sizeable mouse nest under the plastic engine cover of my Honda Ridgeline, however, there were plenty of seeds and other food sources in that nest, suggesting they had a food source (my bird seed!). No damage to the car aside from some fiberglass insulation used for the nest.
Fast forward to my P car, and I too had a nest on my cabin air filter, full of food and nuts. I have had TWO PPIs done since, with a full strip of all panels and zero damage discovered so far (1500 miles).
From my own mouse experiences, I have discovered that - if they have a good source of food close by, the odds of them chewing something in your car are lowered, as they will typically chew wires when there's nothing else to eat.
I discovered a sizeable mouse nest under the plastic engine cover of my Honda Ridgeline, however, there were plenty of seeds and other food sources in that nest, suggesting they had a food source (my bird seed!). No damage to the car aside from some fiberglass insulation used for the nest.
Fast forward to my P car, and I too had a nest on my cabin air filter, full of food and nuts. I have had TWO PPIs done since, with a full strip of all panels and zero damage discovered so far (1500 miles).
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These are only opinions as we are not there to look, touch and drive the car. Having said that, what you have here is a .2 Manual Trans car. They have a great history of having nothing major being or going wrong. (Don't get mixed up with .1 car characteristics, they are different animals). At 45K miles, you are nowhere near any major (or minor) repairs. The only issue for these DI cars is if the HPFP (hi pressure fuel pump) has been replaced (many were done under warrenty).
Not terribly expensive but it will strand you wherever you are when and if it happens. No more driving after it fails. Coolant temp. rises quickly.
Forgot to mention since you brought up the HPFP. Mine failed on the current GTS but was replaced at no cost by the dealership. Was told it was a recall item.
Last edited by sandwedge; 07-25-2021 at 02:43 AM.
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