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Old 07-30-2018, 11:27 AM
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Beautiful car - Wow!

This one was local... lasted 1 single day online > Sold! http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...AB2A93CS720635



Old 07-30-2018, 12:45 PM
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I honestly feel bad for whoever got screwed on that one. They got scammed, period. Car had two airbag deployed incidents and bounced around three dealers before landing at PP with the price marked up $30k.
Old 07-30-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Yes....rare at 1,321. It's nearest competitors, C4 and C4S were built in 10,936 examples combined.
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...n-numbers.html

Congrats on the car. It's a beaut!

Curiosity had me looking at those production numbers, specifically for the 997.2 C2S coupes, and something doesn't add up. For years 2010-2012 it shows only about 1,350 made in total. But for all years of 997.2 it shows 9,470 C2S Coupes. Either Porsche massively front-loaded C2S coupe production in 2008-9 (selling some of them as 2008s in RoW and others as early-production 2010s), or else something is wrong with these C2S coupe numbers. If the numbers are correct, then C2S coupes produced after 2009 are nearly as rare as 4GTS coupes?! Seems unlikely.
Old 07-30-2018, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rootwyrm
I honestly feel bad for whoever got screwed on that one. They got scammed, period. Car had two airbag deployed incidents and bounced around three dealers before landing at PP with the price marked up $30k.
Saw that in cars.com and wasnt selling. Curious. Thats why. Nice car though except for the history.
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Saw that in cars.com and wasnt selling. Curious. Thats why. Nice car though except for the history.
Yeah... it's an acquired taste one, personally I liked the combo, but that one's from the red flag factory. I mean, my acquisition was not perfection - but it has a service history and no accidents. World of difference between a daily driver without a clear bra and hitting something hard enough to set off the explosives.
Plus, you know, I didn't pay the insane BaT markup. So there's that.
Old 07-31-2018, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by quickxotica
Curiosity had me looking at those production numbers, specifically for the 997.2 C2S coupes, and something doesn't add up. For years 2010-2012 it shows only about 1,350 made in total. But for all years of 997.2 it shows 9,470 C2S Coupes. Either Porsche massively front-loaded C2S coupe production in 2008-9 (selling some of them as 2008s in RoW and others as early-production 2010s), or else something is wrong with these C2S coupe numbers. If the numbers are correct, then C2S coupes produced after 2009 are nearly as rare as 4GTS coupes?! Seems unlikely.
There was this thing called The Great recession that hit in the summer / fall of 2008. Porsche couldn't give their cars away. Tales of $10 - $20k trunk money. A good time to be a buyer.

BTW, how many 997's do you see on the road compared to 991's? Around here, they are about 1 of 6.
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Originally Posted by dasams
There was this thing called The Great recession that hit in the summer / fall of 2008. Porsche couldn't give their cars away. Tales of $10 - $20k trunk money. A good time to be a buyer.

BTW, how many 997's do you see on the road compared to 991's? Around here, they are about 1 of 6.
Yeah. I almost went for a Boxster back then. The deals were insane. But stumbled into a better deal on a unicorn that wasn't miserable in winter.

Around here, I honestly don't see too many. New neighbors down the street though have a nice silver 997.1 C2. See a fair number of Macans and the like, and Boxsters. Lots of 924/928/944. (Like that's a surprise given my home track.) But to my knowledge, the only two 997 GTSes local will be the white C2GTS and my C4GTS. I am more than happy to be corrected though.
Old 07-31-2018, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rootwyrm
No factory aero, alas. And black on black (pretty sure Porsche didn't build a single coupe in midnight blue, which is frustrating.) But it has pretty much everything else. Bose, heated and ventilated 12-way seats, ParkAssist, PDLS, Sport Chrono Plus, PCM 3.0 with factory XM, Multi-Function wheel, full leather interior, painted side skirts, and silver wheels.

Thanks for all the well-wishes! Since she's not under my hot little feet yet (you can tell this because I'm here and not driving the last off the tires) is it OK to share the dealer pictures?
They made the C4GTS in midnight blue. Here is one I looked at but ultimately passed on.

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Originally Posted by 8Lug
They made the C4GTS in midnight blue. Here is one I looked at but ultimately passed on.
See, now y'all are just trying to torment me. But we both know there's a reason you passed on it.
Old 08-01-2018, 12:12 AM
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Default 2012 997.2 C4GTS MT


Agree the money shot is those hips
Old 08-01-2018, 02:17 AM
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Congrats!! beautiful car!! enjoy!!
Old 08-01-2018, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rootwyrm
See, now y'all are just trying to torment me. But we both know there's a reason you passed on it.
There is a reason. I was an idiot early in my search. I wanted a lower mileage example and didn't realize how hard these cars are to find. Now I'm sitting here months later looking at pictures of your car instead of driving my own. Congrats on your purchase. Looks awesome.
Old 08-01-2018, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
There is a reason. I was an idiot early in my search. I wanted a lower mileage example and didn't realize how hard these cars are to find. Now I'm sitting here months later looking at pictures of your car instead of driving my own. Congrats on your purchase. Looks awesome.
I thought about holding out for lower miles or my dream color, but this one definitely was the right price and the right time. It's sure no spring chicken - it'll be at least 61k miles by the time I'm home! But what is mileage but a number? (It's an excuse to rebuild the motor better, duh! I figure if she's still in the garage around 120k, I'm gonna take the time to learn the motor and bump the compression.)
Amusingly, if that's the C4GTS I think it is (the one that was full Alcantara optioned,) passing was the right choice for both of us. Certainly I got a better deal, but there were some definitely iffy things about the history.

But holy crap is the waiting for the work to be done the worst part. I want to drive it!
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Since this thread is here and I've been dying to know, what's everyone's opinion on the rarity of my car? In 12 months of searching, I only found 3 other white GTS cars in Canada; none of them optioned anywhere near this one.




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Amazing color combo! White isn't the rarest of colors but terracotta interior with carbon fiber and aero kit certainly helps to make this more exclusive.


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