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Old 02-12-2011, 12:49 PM
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The RSR has no ECU?
Old 02-12-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
With the programming in our cars there is a temperature/timing retard MAP.. Once the intake temps measured at the "Y" pipe before the throttle body reaches "X" degrees >>timing is pulled. The rate of timing and boost is adjusted in the mapping.
What is the specific temperature?
Old 02-12-2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Dock one thing that you are missing vs the Racing RSR.. We are running a Bosch Motronic ECU, the RSR is not.
According to Porsche, the 2011 997 GT3 RSR uses Bosch MS 4.0 electronic engine management.
Old 02-12-2011, 11:14 PM
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Yes, Dock > Google Bosch Motorsports MS 4.0 Then compare the racing ECU vs the Motronic ECU.. Different animals.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Yes, Dock > Google Bosch Motorsports MS 4.0 Then compare the racing ECU vs the Motronic ECU.. Different animals.
So one has temperature/timing retard and the other doesn't?
Old 02-14-2011, 10:41 AM
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The Cup cars do draw air from the outsire, look at the "lid", you can even see the air filter, the RSRs have a similar setup
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:46 PM
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Staying stock.

If I need more power, I'll go directly to fancy plunbing. Porsche would not spend that much money on air for their race cars if it did not matter.... Note the filter...looks like paper. Actually looks like my 3M high end home A/C filter (filtrete). .

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I quote Chris Harris interview with Andreas Preuninger and Jörg Juenger talking about the GT3RS.

“Internally, the engine is identical to the regular GT3’s, but a new intake system with shorter runners, a larger plenum and one hilarious gaping-mouth of an entrance below the rear wing are said to produce a ram-air effect that helps release an extra 15bhp, lifting peak power to 444bhp. ‘We’ve gone very aggressive on the ignition timing,’ says Preuninger, ‘and with the better intake we have had to fit a revised, titanium exhaust. “

Porsche Motorsports now appreciates the benefits of the closed airbox with ramair scoops that the streets 2010RS clone airbox is standard on the new Cup cars.
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This thread gets better and better...

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Old 02-14-2011, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikelly
This thread gets better and better...

Mike
I'm tempted to whip out my thermocouples and see how cold the air is at the filter if I take off my airbox...

Porsche 996TT engines hydraulically lift up the rear spoiler at speed and DIVERT and SCOOP tons of cold ambient air into the engine bay and a 996TT engine easily grabs it and the DYNO data do not lie.
If the wing is design to produce downforce (it is), then the region of lower pressure is under the wing and adjacent to the engine compartment. I'm a little confused as to how this theory was proven on a DYNO. Was the dyno in a wind tunnel?

Fabspeed Motorsport USA designed and fully tested our 996TT intake system and mapped IAT (intake air temperature)and recorded additional data. Empirical data and results were thoroughly proven.
then by-golly, post this data!
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Originally Posted by MechanicalEng
The Cup cars do draw air from the outsire, look at the "lid", you can even see the air filter, the RSRs have a similar setup
The 2011 997 RSR and Cup car have different systems. The 997 RSR intake system draws air from the engine bay.
Old 02-15-2011, 08:26 PM
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Correct...Not to mention the revised rear bodywork that works with aerodynamic flow to funnel in cool air into the enginebay.

Now, bringing up the design and use of the current 997 cupcar is simply comparing apples to oranges.

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