Woodster

I wish Neil could respond because he has the best understanding of the
programming and talks to the programmer regularily. This guy does some
very interesting racing programs for PSI Motorsport race team and many
other people. I know he has helped a couple of very well known Porsche
"tuner/distributors" that are on this board regularily. I am talking about
"bailing out" and helping where other programs have failed. I, like Sharkey,
have very little understanding of the programming and I can only tell you
my 480 kit is very torquey-strong! and holds 1.0 througout rev range, no dips, cels, or anything.
MK

RobCS

That is too bad as he can kiss his warranty goodbye. This guy should not knock on PSI Motorsport's door either as PSI Motorsport went out of business this summer.

PorschePhD

Wow, talk about marketing at its best. Wow!

Kevin

RobCS, welcome to Rennlist.

Can validate what you have posted? Did they go bankrupt??

JWGT2

Wow...that sucks. Is this the one done at Carlsen's?
And that's only the 480, wonder what would happen to the 550 kit.

alex911s

huh???they did?

Woodster

Sharkey: who is the owner of the PSI 480 car where a "motor was supposedly
replaced"?? Why was it replaced? Miles on motor, what happened, etc.?
Rob CS: why do you think www.psi-motorsport.com is out of business??
People, please lets slow down on the heresay and bull*#@t without sub-
stantiation!!! remember this was a thread on a dyno chart
with some dips that evidently should not be there.

Jean

The PSI story is not correct, Rob CS, if you are making this kind of claims, you better have proof as you are hurting a very respectable business reputation. They had a split between some partners in summer, that's all. Unless this has happened very very recently, which I doubt.

About the safety of PSI tuning, the same, PSI is a very respectable company that has great products. They also have decent racing experience that not many, if any, here can claim, and they have a state of the art dyno that many excellent tuning houses and teams use in Europe.

Comparing them to a Manthey or RS Tuning however is ridiculous, but that does not mean that PSI does not have excellent programs, and maybe I personally would not favour GIAC to any of them, or the other way around, they are both good, each in a different way.

This dyno chart does not do justice to them (PSI), then again I have seen GIAC dynos looking just as bad n the past with no control over the wastegates. As far as breaking engines, something other than a 480 kit must have broken that engine obviously, and just to be fair to all, I have also seen GIAC chips boosting to 1.6 Bars to get the performance of others at 1.2 Bar, that cannot be very safe, can it? Or the 2 Bars for the GT900 program (AFAIK)?

I have a lot of friends here and I am not trying to pi$$ everyone off, just making sure that we do not see misinformation and unfounded talk being spread around by ones and others, I don't care whether they are GIAC dealers or PSI dealers, or whatever.

Neil's issue is a separate story, as is the 969 speedaddy one.

Woodster

Thank you Jean, I concurr 99%. Let us all keep our heads, please.
I, like many am shopping my second round of tuning mods so I am
looking for facts (and opinions if someone actually owns a product),
if not please substantiate your claims.
MK

sharkster

Hey Woodster... if you look http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=38341 at this thread it was an owner of 969-Collintt... I don't know the ins and outs of why though- not my business obviously. I'm just hoping it wasn't due to the incorrectly mapped software and other mods is all.

Jean

Marty, I would stay put for a while by the time this clears up, could be that the US program has some flaws, as seems to be the case from the dyno chart, why risk it? Also, it would have been great to hear from PSI Belgium themselves, I am sure that by now they are aware that their US business is being put under the microscope. I am not sure they have the international scale to realize how quickly their business can disappear from the continent if they don't act.

mikerosi

Why would this guy, "Speed Daddy" post a flawed dyno reading of a PSI product that he intends to sell. It doesn`t make sence.

PorschePhD

You have to know what you are looking at in order to interpret what it means. This is the problem with this industry. People bolt things on with no understanding what they are looking at. This is an example of just that. There was more emphasis to get the number out. That is what they saw, nothing else. The chart spoke of another issue. It is not meant to be a dig at them in any capacity, but the bottom line is the term "tuner" is rather loose. In this case the "tuner" from Belgium should probably be on the next flight to the US to support their new market. We spent the first several years flying all over the US to reprogram peoples ECU after the fact. That learning curve is huge. And just when you think that is might be ok something will change in the setup. You are at it all over again. In one year I was in 4 different states on some strange dyno interpenetrating and correcting issues. If you don't know what an issue looks like then how can one identify it? You don't.

Oak

"you americans..... always trying to bolt on horsepower." famous quote by ?

Jean

Good post Stephen, and I concur 100% with your analysis. PSI seems to have overestimated their ability to go international and manage from a distance. It is a typical mistale many do, they learn from it, and either give up , or come back with better tools. We'll see what's next.